Smallville - Love the show, but Clark is so irritating at times! [Spoiler]

dreaded_beast

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I watch Smallville mainly to see the development of Lex Luthor as a character and consider him my favorite character.

I know he is fated to be a "villain", but in my opinion and based on what I have seen from the show, it's as if fate is conspiring to force him to be one. Most of the time he is trying to do the right thing, but people always take such a black and white attitude when it comes to Lex's actions.

Anyway, throught most of this past season, I started getting irritated at Clark always poking his nose into other people's business, but when it comes to him, it's a different story. It's all right for him to go and try to find out other people's secrets, but not for anyone else to find out his?

So, when Lex and Clark have there eventual falling out, I find it very frustrating when Clark gets all "holier-than-thou", preaching to Lex about keeping secrets from his friends, when Clark does the exact same thing.

Then Clark begins to whine and moan about how Lex "pretended" to be his friend for the past 3 years, when you look back at all the things Lex has done for the Kents, it's more than what anyone else on the show has done for them. Even if Lex did have the ulterior motive of finding out Clark's secret, he still considered Clark his friend, but Clark couldn't see that.

I love Smallville, but it is just so frustrating to watch, seeing how everyone is just so against Lex Luthor, no matter what he does. When others make a mistake they are more willing to forgive, but when it comes to Lex, they attribute his actions to being a "bad seed".
 

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Used to be interested in the show, but the lack of continuity (except for Lionel's schemes), as well as the Lana Clark see-saw has gotten me rather annoyed lately.

Your right though that Lex is the coolest character on the show, and it is kinda dumb that Clark is mad at him for keeping secrets. Lets see, Lex has saved the Kent farm a few times, and gotten them a new truck at least once (I feel sorry for the Kent's numerous trucks- they seem to be fated to go kablooie)
 
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Yes, Clark is a hypocritical little :):):):) . He's also dumb as a stone where Lana Lang is concerned; I think the ultimate purpose of Smallville is not just to tell the "story of SUperman," it's to tell the story in a different light. We know that Superman ultimately doesn't end up with Lana, and is enemies with Lex; but I think their premise is What if it's all CLark's Fault? And what if his Superman role assumption is to right some stupid mistakes that HE'S done?
 

Henry said:
Yes, Clark is a hypocritical little :):):):) . He's also dumb as a stone where Lana Lang is concerned; I think the ultimate purpose of Smallville is not just to tell the "story of SUperman," it's to tell the story in a different light. We know that Superman ultimately doesn't end up with Lana, and is enemies with Lex; but I think their premise is What if it's all CLark's Fault? And what if his Superman role assumption is to right some stupid mistakes that HE'S done?

So basically what you're saying is it's Spider-man, except more powerful?
 

I have been a little disappointed with this season too, the show started dragging its feet. Last year I thought it was all about building the pyche of Lex and Clark, showing the events that made them into Superman and Lex Luthor and their relationship, this year it has been about Lana and head injury, the few good ones have have centered around Lex and his father.
 

Welverin said:
So basically what you're saying is it's Spider-man, except more powerful?

Except in Spider-Man's case, the guilt is uwarranted. To borrow from Red Foreman, Clark's being a general dumbass on purpose. :)
 

Henry said:
Yes, Clark is a hypocritical little :):):):) . He's also dumb as a stone where Lana Lang is concerned; I think the ultimate purpose of Smallville is not just to tell the "story of SUperman," it's to tell the story in a different light. We know that Superman ultimately doesn't end up with Lana, and is enemies with Lex; but I think their premise is What if it's all CLark's Fault? And what if his Superman role assumption is to right some stupid mistakes that HE'S done?

Clark is just being a teenager. I find it refreshing to see him as less than perfect. I disagree with you on this one Henry. I think the writers are making it obvious that Lana and Clark are bad for each other. And, while Lex may have been a good friend to Clark, he has never truly accepted him. Heck, even Lex told Pete that it was better that Clark trusted Pete with the secret rather than Lex. Lex could never handle the truth behind Clark's origins. In fact, I would say that Lex is far more dangerous than Lionel. Lionel would wants to use Clark. Lex would want to destroy anyone who was better than he.

Clark and Lana are terrible for each other. Each person drives away the other. It only takes one of them to swallow their pride. Either Clark gets honest, or Lana just sucks it up and waits for the truth. There is no compromise between them and I see no real love there, passion, maybe, but not love.
 

Lex wants to be a savoir or at least seen as one, his weakness, he want to seen as a good guy, the good son but deep down he feels he is paying for his fathers crimes, so realisticly he does not care if he is good or evil only that he was the one that come in at the last hour to save the day. Clark would become a tools to make Lex into that savior.

Clark is that savior, he is the good son, he is everything Lex wishes he could be and I think feels he could have been if not for his father. Lex attachment and friendship to Clark is a form of hero worship.

Lana is bad for Clark, you have to compare her to Lois. While Clark could love her she would never allow him to be Superman, she would hold him back as Clark, Lois allows Superman to be the hero he is.
 
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I think that Lex Luthor is just a guy that has been trying to gain acceptance from those around him, but people have a hard time seeing past the crimes of his father and the stigma attached with the Luthor name.

Lex is by no means perfect, but it seems, in my opinion, that whenever he makes a mistake, it is blown out of proportion.

I think that deep down inside, Lex is a good person (or at least not an "evil" one), but is more willing to "cross-the-line" and do what needs to be done.

I guess in DND terms, I would give Lex a Lawful Neutral or Neutral alignment, at least during this point in the series.

It saddens me that, in my opinion, Lex is not really a bad person, but because that is what everyone expects of him, that is what he ultimately will become. A "self-fulfilling" prophecy.

I think it would be cool if Lex didn't become an "evil" villian (at least within the Smallville mythos), but just a "misguided" person, who still tries to do the right thing, but with little thought to the costs or consequences.
 

dreaded_beast said:
I love Smallville, but it is just so frustrating to watch, seeing how everyone is just so against Lex Luthor, no matter what he does. When others make a mistake they are more willing to forgive, but when it comes to Lex, they attribute his actions to being a "bad seed".
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dreaded_beast said:
I think that Lex Luthor is just a guy that has been trying to gain acceptance from those around him, but people have a hard time seeing past the crimes of his father and the stigma attached with the Luthor name.

Lex is by no means perfect, but it seems, in my opinion, that whenever he makes a mistake, it is blown out of proportion.

I think that deep down inside, Lex is a good person (or at least not an "evil" one), but is more willing to "cross-the-line" and do what needs to be done.

I guess in DND terms, I would give Lex a Lawful Neutral or Neutral alignment, at least during this point in the series.

It saddens me that, in my opinion, Lex is not really a bad person, but because that is what everyone expects of him, that is what he ultimately will become. A "self-fulfilling" prophecy.

I think it would be cool if Lex didn't become an "evil" villian (at least within the Smallville mythos), but just a "misguided" person, who still tries to do the right thing, but with little thought to the costs or consequences.
I am in total agreement here. This sums up exactly how I feel about the show. (Though I admit I no longer watch regularly.) Lex keeps trying and trying but its as if everyone is determined to always assume the worst about him and see anything he does in the worst possible light. It's something of a cliche to say it, but it seems as if he just can't win. I came to the conclusion a long time ago that it's no wonder he becomes a villain. Given the way everyone already treats him like one anyway, why not? Frankly, back when I watched the show I was inclined to root for Lex more than once...
 

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