JacktheRabbit
Explorer
So what is the overall decision on this 3rd level divine and arcane spell from Relics and Rituals?
Shadow Touch from Relics and Rituals - Ok or Broken?
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James McMurray
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I think its ok. Of course, it almost gaurantees that most evil clerics and necromancers are going to have a bunch of shadows following them around, but that should be the case anyway. 
JacktheRabbit
Explorer
I am a neutral wizard that just got his first level of shadow adept from the FRCS.
MY DM is rather open when it comes to new spells so I am sure he will let me take it. I just want to make sure I won't be overbalancing things by using it.
The spell is going to play havoc in the party if I do take it. We have a human paladin and a LG dwarven cleric.
MY DM is rather open when it comes to new spells so I am sure he will let me take it. I just want to make sure I won't be overbalancing things by using it.
The spell is going to play havoc in the party if I do take it. We have a human paladin and a LG dwarven cleric.
JacktheRabbit
Explorer
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Crothian
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Actually, it's 1d6 +1 per 2 levels (max 1d6 +6) with a fort save for half.
This is a mage killer spell. They have bad fort saves and low strength. I think it's a little strong for the level because it will turn people into shadows. If you take that out, I think it';s a perfectly fine spell. If you leave that in I'd up it to level 5 (and increase the max to 1d6+10).
This is a mage killer spell. They have bad fort saves and low strength. I think it's a little strong for the level because it will turn people into shadows. If you take that out, I think it';s a perfectly fine spell. If you leave that in I'd up it to level 5 (and increase the max to 1d6+10).
James McMurray
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But without the turning into shadows part, its almost worse than ray of enfeeblement. Sure, Shadow Touch can actually drop someone to zero, but there's incredibly little difference between a zero strength and a one strength. The save negating the ray makes them even spells, considering you can't hit them from afar with the shadow touch.
James McMurray
First Post
True, but assuming you're carrying any gear whatsoever, you won't be doing much with a one strength either. 10.01 pounds is over your heavy load, and considering that an explorer's outfit weighs 8, I'm pretty sure most adventurers will be way overburdened.
JacktheRabbit
Explorer
So we have one vote for broken and one for not.
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