Scarred Lands Forsaken Elves; their Nameless God

Holy Bovine

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For the Scarred Lands fans out there - What is the name of the Forsaken Elves' god? I know he was slain by Chern but I cannnot find his name listed anywhere. Admittedly I don't have all the books but you'd think Divine & Defeated would have had something.

Thanks for any help.
 

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Holy Bovine said:
For the Scarred Lands fans out there - What is the name of the Forsaken Elves' god? I know he was slain by Chern but I cannnot find his name listed anywhere. Admittedly I don't have all the books but you'd think Divine & Defeated would have had something.

Thanks for any help.


Take a look in the Faithful and the Forsaken. He is in there and his is not dead any more.
 

dsfriii said:
Take a look in the Faithful and the Forsaken. He is in there and his is not dead any more.
For those of us without the book, could you give us a short version of how that happened? I figured the forsaken elves would know if their patron was dead or not.
 

Some call him That Which Abides, others The Deity Formerly Known as Jandaveos.

The details of his resurrection occur in the Scarred Lands Forsaken trilogy of novels, where his name is also brought up. I've not read them because the intro looked unappealing (and I'm broke), so I can't provide many details, and from what I've heard of the Faithful and the Forsaken, it doesn't provide many details either. Though I don't know firsthand, not having the book (because, well, I'm broke). Most of it took place in Ghelspad, however, with some time spent chatting with Kadum and giving him a Slarecian dragon horn or something along those lines.
 
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Looks like the Sage will have to come down with the info. (Especially since Yugman isn't around, the poser. :p )

[Editor's note: This contains spoilers for the short story: "Three Dreams of Belsameth", and the books: Forsaken and Forsworn]


Now that we have that out of the way....

Regarding Jandaveos,

As many of you are aware, the History of Termana and indeed the Scarred Lands tends to be subjective. I, however, being a student of history, will try to be as objective about such matters as possible.

To begin with, the death of Jandaveos, or as he was called after the Divine War erased all of traces of his name, That Which Abides, was caused by Chern's rage against the forsaken elves or as some places might call them "High elves" Because of the large scale devastation caused by plunge Kadum took into what is now called the Blood Sea, much of the Charduni army on Termana was destroyed and the Forsaken elves managed to rally their armies to prepare for a strike against their weakened foes. However when Chern came, and using a guile not relatively known to him, infiltrated the Herald of That Which Abides and killed him, much of the fall of those elves was readily apparent. However while the Curse of Chern was great, the death of their god was nearly a death blow. That was until one last high priest, one Vladwen Titanslayer, decided to go on a most perilous quest. To ressurrect his god. In that action, he also became ensnared in the designs of the Slayer herself, Belsameth. Seems the Lady of Murder, much like the rest of her kin, was feeling the need to shore up the divine ranks a little. Plus the fact she felt she needed a new patsy to play with. So with the aid of the Prince of Shadow himself, Dar'Tan, the Penubral Pentagon's leader, she devised a scheme where by Vladwen would not only ressurect his god, but alter him enough to gain his alliegence to the forces of "evil." So after giving Vladwen "gifts" and plots more myriad than most mortals care to comprehend, she and Vladwen succeeded in raising the god. (The start of which was a small religious war in Darakenee that also raised belief enough to give That Which Abides the power to at least be able to break free). The means of which was secured by the High Council of Hollowfaust's own, along with an artifact of Slacerian design (one of their muses that had yet to be enspelled and thus unaffected by the demise of That Which Abides). So when the true ritual was cast, Jandaveos returned. However Vladwen, with the aid of Kadum, the Thunderous One, thwarted both Belsameth's and Dar'Tan's scheme. While the exact details of the barter between the two entities is unknown to me, I believe Kadum himself used his blood to break the hold that Belsameth had over Jandaveos and thus secure his "goodness" to all.

Now it seems that the Dark Elves might try something similiar, though of course this is speculation on the part of this historian and sage. Still it is worth considering such things.
 

And that Nightfall, is one of the reasons I haven't enjoyed the Scarred Lands as much. The whole idea of the war having long lasting effects where the players make the differences was quickly tossed in the garbage with that trilogy of novels. They would've been far better off doing a trilogy that showed the god getting killed, not coming back with gods, high powered mages, cults, and everything else under the sun in the first series.
 

Joe,

I do understand and sympathize with your complaint. However I WOULD like to point out that you CAN ignore the novels. I certainly am intending to. I don't need an elven god, nor will I bring back a god for the dark elves. The gods that exist now are fine by me. Unlike the events in other world (IE Faerun), that are affected because of novels, the Scarred Lands are relatively involitate of such meta effects. Yes novels do play a role, but more and more its the sourcebooks and the PLAYERS that affect the world. Believe me Joe, while I do understand your position, I don't necessarily see these novels or even this ONE sourcebook as being a part of the whole.
 

Ah, but ignoring the novels and that one game book (see, it's already started!) are fine if that's where it ends. However, it's unlikely that will be the case unless the fiction either A)Details past events, B)Details small events. Depending on how much support Termania sees, that one book's effect and reference may become harder and harder to ignore. Me? I'm not too upset by it, but it did put a huge dent in my appreciation for the Scarred Lands as a stable setting.
 

Nightfall said:
Joe,

I do understand and sympathize with your complaint. However I WOULD like to point out that you CAN ignore the novels. I certainly am intending to. I don't need an elven god, nor will I bring back a god for the dark elves. The gods that exist now are fine by me. Unlike the events in other world (IE Faerun), that are affected because of novels, the Scarred Lands are relatively involitate of such meta effects. Yes novels do play a role, but more and more its the sourcebooks and the PLAYERS that affect the world. Believe me Joe, while I do understand your position, I don't necessarily see these novels or even this ONE sourcebook as being a part of the whole.


People could have said this about the Forgotten Realms when there were relatively few novels about it too. But as more novels are written about the Scarred Lands, the more difficult it will be for a DM to ignore them. I wouldn't put the Scarred Lands' merits in this regard on a pedestal above other settings just yet.

Edit: Just realized I completely echoed Joe's words.
 
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Well so far it seems not very likely we'll get a lot of novels. At least I HOPE not. I don't need novels.

But I do believe most people will want older stuff. At least stuff about the past. (God I hope so!) In any case I can't speak for the novel department but I'm reasonable sure that Faithful and Forsaken offers optional rules for using Jandaveos. I could be wrong. But I do believe that was mentioned a while ago.
 

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