D&D 3E/3.5 SA Fighter and Swashbuckler <3.5>

LuckyBoneDice

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Using the Sneak Attack variant fighter, who drops his Bonus Feats for SA porgression as a Rogue, which Daring feat actually works, since Daring Outlaw advances SA for ROGUES whereas Daring Fighter advances fighter bonus feats.
 

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Maybe I missed something...

Why would you ever want to play a SA Fighter instead of just playing a Rogue for such a setup? With Daring Outlaw, you can just level up in Swash and get your full BAB and d10 HD along with the SA progression anyway. And I'd rather lose a few hp in the early levels to get mondo skill points, Evasion and (maybe if you go that far into Rogue?) Uncanny Dodge. Maybe the OP values having all d10's and a whopping extra +1 BAB....
 

Maybe I missed something...

Why would you ever want to play a SA Fighter instead of just playing a Rogue for such a setup? With Daring Outlaw, you can just level up in Swash and get your full BAB and d10 HD along with the SA progression anyway. And I'd rather lose a few hp in the early levels to get mondo skill points, Evasion and (maybe if you go that far into Rogue?) Uncanny Dodge. Maybe the OP values having all d10's and a whopping extra +1 BAB....
When combined with the Hit & Run fighter variant, the Fighter suddenly trumps the rogue. A static +2 initiative and Dex to damage on a sneak attack, along with Int and Str makes for a fabulous combo
 

How are you getting the sneak attacks? Seems like you'd be limited to feinting, and from skill ranks via Swashbuckler, since it's not even a class skill for Fighters. I don't like feinting for sneak attack, the enemy adds BAB to the opposed check on top of skill mod, and even with a feat, it's still taking up part of the round's actions and only benefitting one attack. Much better is actually sneaking (at least until they act in the combat, all your attacks benefit) or using magic devices (also not a class skill) to summon a flanking buddy, lay down some grease, or sick a persistent blade on somebody.

And if you value dex to damage so much, you can dip Swordsage (or take 3 feats, but that's a little pricy to me) and pick up Shadow Blade. *Shrug* I'd think without amazing rolls or huge point buy, maintaining three good attack stats on top of con would be a chore not particularly worth bothering all on its own merits. Assassin's Stance and Craven feat are already likely to add more to your sneak attack damage anyway.
 

Using the Sneak Attack variant fighter, who drops his Bonus Feats for SA porgression as a Rogue, which Daring feat actually works, since Daring Outlaw advances SA for ROGUES whereas Daring Fighter advances fighter bonus feats.

point of note: Daring Fighter doesn't advance bonus feats. it treats you as a fighter for purposes of qualifying for feats.
 

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