Ring of the Darkhidden, Darkvision, and See Invisibility What the heck happens?

Three_Haligonians

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So my Dwarven Wizard casts see invisibility as he walks around the goblin caves. One of the sneaky buggers is wearing a Ring of the Darkhidden (which makes you invisible to only Darkvision) and puts out all the torches. They end up 40 ft apart in a hallway and facing each other.

I assume my Dwarf sees the Goblin, the question is how? Is the Goblin colourless because that's how Darkvision sees things? Or does the Dwarf see the Goblin regularly because of the spell, but "regular" vision wouldn't work because there is no light.

So what does my Dwarf see?

J from Three Haligonians
 
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Where is that ring from? I've never heard of it.

From what you wrote, I'd say the Dwarf seems him.

SRD said:
You can see any objects or beings that are invisible within your range of vision, as well as any that are ethereal, as if they were normally visible. Such creatures are visible to you as translucent shapes, allowing you easily to discern the difference between visible, invisible, and ethereal creatures.

The spell does not reveal the method used to obtain invisibility. It does not reveal illusions or enable you to see through opaque objects. It does not reveal creatures who are simply hiding, concealed, or otherwise hard to see.

Emphasis mine. So it doesn't matter how they got invisible, just that they are invisible.
 

The Ring is from Magic of Faerun.

I figured the dwarf would see him, I was just confused as to if the goblin would be in colour or not.

But from the SRD, I'm guessing it wouldn't be in colour since it seems to me like the dwarf's Darkvision is being aided by the spell, not replaced.

Unless of course the "translucent shape" messes things up. I suppose you could say you couldn't see a translucent shape in the dark since there is no light to pass through it. But if we go down that road, soon we will be lost to the "can you see through glass with Darkvision" argument. :p

J from Three Haligonians
 

The guy is invisible to darkvision. Your dwarf has darkvision (and is using it) and has a see invisibility spell active. So you dwarf sees the goblin ahead in "as if they were normally visable.", in this case, in darkvision.
 

as per the RAW, darkvision sees things in B&W

DARKVISION
Darkvision is the extraordinary ability to see with no light source at all, out to a range specified for the creature. Darkvision is black and white only (colors cannot be discerned). It does not allow characters to see anything that they could not see otherwise—invisible objects are still invisible, and illusions are still visible as what they seem to be. Likewise, darkvision subjects a creature to gaze attacks normally. The presence of light does not spoil darkvision.

Emphasis mine, but look it up in the SRD

Since the dwarf has darkvision and can see invis, and the goblin is invis in the dark, and they are in the dark....the dwarf sees using his darkvision...
 
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Yes, dwarf sees goblin unless see invisible was dispelled. If its invisible to darvision only, see invis still works because the damn thing is still invisible. *mumble* stupid goblins *mumble*
 

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