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<blockquote data-quote="hamishspence" data-source="post: 5011802" data-attributes="member: 41555"><p>I'd have gone with 15 HD as the midpoint between 10HD Huge and 20HD Gargantuan for crocs, but otherwise, its good- smaller <em>Deinosuchus</em> work for 30 ft croc, largest specimens of <em>Deinosuchus</em>, <em>Purussaurus </em>(giant caiman)<em>, </em>and <em>Sarcosuchus</em> all work well as 40 ft crocs.</p><p> </p><p>Sauropods currently follow 24 HD Gargantuan, 48 HD colossal- since Colossal is supposed to start at 128 short tons, this may be a bit on the high side for diplodocid sauropods.</p><p> </p><p>Still, it can work- given the fact that despite being slim, Huge diplodocids are still heavier on average than Huge theropods. </p><p> </p><p>My current best guess for species for each category:</p><p> </p><p><em><u>Diplodocids</u></em></p><p>Huge: 12 HD- <em>Cetiosauriscus</em></p><p>Huge-and-a-half: 18 HD- <em>Diplodocus carnegii</em></p><p>Gargantuan: 24 HD- <em>Diplodocus hallorum</em></p><p>Gargantuan-and-a-half: 36 HD- <em>Supersaurus, </em>115 ft <em>Mammenchisaurus</em></p><p>Colossal: 48 HD-<em> Amphicoelias</em></p><p> </p><p><em><u>Macronarians, heavily built or primitive sauropods</u></em></p><p>Huge: 12 HD- <em>Saltasaurus</em></p><p>Huge-and-a-half: 18 HD- <em>Cetiosaurus, Euhelopus, Apatosaurus</em></p><p>Gargantuan: 24 HD- <em>Barapasaurus, Brachiosaurus, Giraffatitan</em></p><p>Gargantuan-and-a-half: 36 HD- <em>Sauroposeidon, Paralititan</em></p><p>Colossal: 48 HD- <em>Bruhathkyosaurus, Argentinosaurus</em></p><p> </p><p>This scheme seems to work OK- uses your size scaling system up to a point- but places Huge-and-a-half creatures midway between Huge and Gargantuan.</p><p> </p><p>the Chunky Build system works quite well for whales- the largest reported sperm whales, the bowhead whales, and fin whales, all qualify as Colossal (being all comparable to <em>Argentinosaurus</em> in weight or higher, and the largest blue whales can be Colossal-and-a-half, with 60 HD.</p><p> </p><p>For whales, I'd agree with trimming down the orca size a bit.</p><p> </p><p>Average males and large-ish females work as 12 HD creatures, the males can be 18 HD creatures (huge-and-a-half- the <em>T. rex</em> of the sea.)</p><p> </p><p>And the karate-killer whales sounds like a fun campaign concept- maybe the whale's tail slap should be more dangerous than the MM makes it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hamishspence, post: 5011802, member: 41555"] I'd have gone with 15 HD as the midpoint between 10HD Huge and 20HD Gargantuan for crocs, but otherwise, its good- smaller [I]Deinosuchus[/I] work for 30 ft croc, largest specimens of [I]Deinosuchus[/I], [I]Purussaurus [/I](giant caiman)[I], [/I]and [I]Sarcosuchus[/I] all work well as 40 ft crocs. Sauropods currently follow 24 HD Gargantuan, 48 HD colossal- since Colossal is supposed to start at 128 short tons, this may be a bit on the high side for diplodocid sauropods. Still, it can work- given the fact that despite being slim, Huge diplodocids are still heavier on average than Huge theropods. My current best guess for species for each category: [I][U]Diplodocids[/U][/I] Huge: 12 HD- [I]Cetiosauriscus[/I] Huge-and-a-half: 18 HD- [I]Diplodocus carnegii[/I] Gargantuan: 24 HD- [I]Diplodocus hallorum[/I] Gargantuan-and-a-half: 36 HD- [I]Supersaurus, [/I]115 ft [I]Mammenchisaurus[/I] Colossal: 48 HD-[I] Amphicoelias[/I] [I][U]Macronarians, heavily built or primitive sauropods[/U][/I] Huge: 12 HD- [I]Saltasaurus[/I] Huge-and-a-half: 18 HD- [I]Cetiosaurus, Euhelopus, Apatosaurus[/I] Gargantuan: 24 HD- [I]Barapasaurus, Brachiosaurus, Giraffatitan[/I] Gargantuan-and-a-half: 36 HD- [I]Sauroposeidon, Paralititan[/I] Colossal: 48 HD- [I]Bruhathkyosaurus, Argentinosaurus[/I] This scheme seems to work OK- uses your size scaling system up to a point- but places Huge-and-a-half creatures midway between Huge and Gargantuan. the Chunky Build system works quite well for whales- the largest reported sperm whales, the bowhead whales, and fin whales, all qualify as Colossal (being all comparable to [I]Argentinosaurus[/I] in weight or higher, and the largest blue whales can be Colossal-and-a-half, with 60 HD. For whales, I'd agree with trimming down the orca size a bit. Average males and large-ish females work as 12 HD creatures, the males can be 18 HD creatures (huge-and-a-half- the [I]T. rex[/I] of the sea.) And the karate-killer whales sounds like a fun campaign concept- maybe the whale's tail slap should be more dangerous than the MM makes it. [/QUOTE]
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