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Reviewing, Revising, and Finalizing Prehistoric Animals and Dinosaur Ecology
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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 4994104" data-attributes="member: 57383"><p>Quite. Even Gargantuan is a severe stretch for the non-sauropod dinosaurs. I would think it conceivably that the largest Ceratopsian may have reached 30,000 pounds and the largest Hadrosaurs 25,000, so extraordinary individuals may just creep above Huge size. Of course, many of the 3E dinosaurs can advance to Gargantuan, even if it not very realistic, so I'm planning to include stats for them.</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>That would be the exaggeration in "exaggeratedly large estimates" I mentioned upthread.<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p> </p><p>Anyhow, of realistic prehistoric marine reptiles I consider <em>Shonisaurus sikanniensis</em> the only credible candidate for Colossal size. I guesstimate a 70 foot specimen would weigh somewhere around 100-150 metric tons, probably closer to the former since it was apparently slimmer than <em>Shonisaurus popularis</em>, which would be more like 50 feet long and 50 tons. They could also have grown bigger than the current 21m estimate of the type specimen, which I think would definitely make them Colossal.</p><p></p><p>I'd also think 50 feet is probably a good round number for the largest Pliosaurs, Elasmosaurs and Mosasaurs, I don't recall any solid fossil evidence for individuals larger than that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 4994104, member: 57383"] Quite. Even Gargantuan is a severe stretch for the non-sauropod dinosaurs. I would think it conceivably that the largest Ceratopsian may have reached 30,000 pounds and the largest Hadrosaurs 25,000, so extraordinary individuals may just creep above Huge size. Of course, many of the 3E dinosaurs can advance to Gargantuan, even if it not very realistic, so I'm planning to include stats for them. That would be the exaggeration in "exaggeratedly large estimates" I mentioned upthread.:) Anyhow, of realistic prehistoric marine reptiles I consider [I]Shonisaurus sikanniensis[/I] the only credible candidate for Colossal size. I guesstimate a 70 foot specimen would weigh somewhere around 100-150 metric tons, probably closer to the former since it was apparently slimmer than [I]Shonisaurus popularis[/I], which would be more like 50 feet long and 50 tons. They could also have grown bigger than the current 21m estimate of the type specimen, which I think would definitely make them Colossal. I'd also think 50 feet is probably a good round number for the largest Pliosaurs, Elasmosaurs and Mosasaurs, I don't recall any solid fossil evidence for individuals larger than that. [/QUOTE]
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