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<blockquote data-quote="hamishspence" data-source="post: 4986550" data-attributes="member: 41555"><p><strong>Dinosaurs</strong></p><p></p><p>Diplodocus and Apatosaurus are quite short necked (20-22 ft) compared to some of the others- a 20 ft reach (if on a 20 ft base) is plenty- for them. <em>Barosaurus</em>, etc can have longer reach.</p><p> </p><p>(the highest figure I've seen for <em>Mammenchisaurus</em> is for a recent exhibit- with a length of 115 ft and a neck length of about 50 ft- longer, by a narrow margin, even than <em>Supersaurus</em>. )</p><p> </p><p>(one source of the 115 ft length):</p><p> </p><p><a href="http://dinogoss.blogspot.com/2009/07/my-sauropod-is-bigger.html" target="_blank">http://dinogoss.blogspot.com/2009/07/my-sauropod-is-bigger.html</a></p><p> </p><p>I wondered if the 5.5 tonne estimate was due to the newspaper getting it wrong- since Naish, Wedel, etc, who were the ones stressing the air sacs of sauropods- were also the ones giving the 10-12 ton estimate.</p><p> </p><p>I was thinking of the 80-90 ft diplodocid as big enough to justify a 20 ft base.</p><p> </p><p>Placed on one of those- its feet- roughly 15 ft or so apart from front of forefooot to front of hind foot- and its back height- around 15 ft high- is fairly comparable to one of the Gargantuan dragon models.</p><p> </p><p>If Gargantuan was to begin with <em>Diplodocus carnegii</em> - move through <em>Barosaurus</em>, <em>Apatosaurus</em>, <em>Diplodous hallorum</em>, <em>Mamenchisaurus, Supersaurus,</em> etc, then that should cover a pretty fair range- </p><p> </p><p>from the 70 ft <em>Apatosaurus, </em>to the 112 ft <em>Supersaurus</em> and 115 ft <em>Mamenchisaurus.</em></p><p> </p><p>And with the 160-190 ft <em>Amphicoelias fragillimus</em>, filling the Colossal slot.</p><p> </p><p>(If it existed, that is <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" />)</p><p> </p><p>Plus- there are sauropods in the 50 ft long, 8-10 ton weight range (ideal for Huge) and a few, so small, they might, even as adults, be Large.</p><p> </p><p>on <em>Herrerasaurus- </em>it's place is still being debated- its not clear if it's a theropod, or if it evolved prior to the split- but the most recent opinions tend toward it being not a theropod.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hamishspence, post: 4986550, member: 41555"] [b]Dinosaurs[/b] Diplodocus and Apatosaurus are quite short necked (20-22 ft) compared to some of the others- a 20 ft reach (if on a 20 ft base) is plenty- for them. [I]Barosaurus[/I], etc can have longer reach. (the highest figure I've seen for [I]Mammenchisaurus[/I] is for a recent exhibit- with a length of 115 ft and a neck length of about 50 ft- longer, by a narrow margin, even than [I]Supersaurus[/I]. ) (one source of the 115 ft length): [URL]http://dinogoss.blogspot.com/2009/07/my-sauropod-is-bigger.html[/URL] I wondered if the 5.5 tonne estimate was due to the newspaper getting it wrong- since Naish, Wedel, etc, who were the ones stressing the air sacs of sauropods- were also the ones giving the 10-12 ton estimate. I was thinking of the 80-90 ft diplodocid as big enough to justify a 20 ft base. Placed on one of those- its feet- roughly 15 ft or so apart from front of forefooot to front of hind foot- and its back height- around 15 ft high- is fairly comparable to one of the Gargantuan dragon models. If Gargantuan was to begin with [I]Diplodocus carnegii[/I] - move through [I]Barosaurus[/I], [I]Apatosaurus[/I], [I]Diplodous hallorum[/I], [I]Mamenchisaurus, Supersaurus,[/I] etc, then that should cover a pretty fair range- from the 70 ft [I]Apatosaurus, [/I]to the 112 ft [I]Supersaurus[/I] and 115 ft [I]Mamenchisaurus.[/I] And with the 160-190 ft [I]Amphicoelias fragillimus[/I], filling the Colossal slot. (If it existed, that is ;)) Plus- there are sauropods in the 50 ft long, 8-10 ton weight range (ideal for Huge) and a few, so small, they might, even as adults, be Large. on [I]Herrerasaurus- [/I]it's place is still being debated- its not clear if it's a theropod, or if it evolved prior to the split- but the most recent opinions tend toward it being not a theropod. [/QUOTE]
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