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<blockquote data-quote="hamishspence" data-source="post: 4986085" data-attributes="member: 41555"><p><strong>sauropod size</strong></p><p></p><p>While base size does not scale well, I figure a 15 ft sauropod body (discounting neck and tail) sitting on a 20 ft base, looks passable. </p><p> </p><p><em>Diplodocus</em> and <em>Apatosaurus</em> have very similar body sizes- one is just chunkier than the other.</p><p> </p><p>Hence, my idea of <em>Diplodocus</em> being the smallest (in hit dice) of the Gargantuan diplodocids.</p><p> </p><p>Put it on a 15 ft base though- and place it next to other Huge creatures- and it will dwarf them.</p><p> </p><p>For skeletal drawings- with a 1 metre scale bar- which can be used to work out how big the "model's base" should be (6m = roughly 20 ft- Gargantuan base size) see here:</p><p> </p><p><a href="http://www.skeletaldrawing.com/sauropods/sauropods.htm" target="_blank">http://www.skeletaldrawing.com/sauropods/sauropods.htm</a></p><p> </p><p>The artist, who was one of the paleontologists who reconstructed Supersaurus, has a reputation as one of the better dinosaur artists out there.</p><p> </p><p>Weight is important- but some creatures are, being lightly built, a little larger than their weight would suggest.</p><p> </p><p>Young <em>Diplodocus</em> could be easily Huge though.</p><p> </p><p>One of the things that especially mystifies me are the numerous articles (dated around June 2009) that say that thanks to sizing errors- many of the dinosaur weights need to be revised.</p><p> </p><p><a href="http://dinosaurs.suite101.com/article.cfm/dinosaurs_smaller_than_thought" target="_blank">http://dinosaurs.suite101.com/article.cfm/dinosaurs_smaller_than_thought</a></p><p> </p><p>All well and good- but they list Diplodocus as being revised downward from 5500 kg to 4000 kg.</p><p> </p><p>Since when did anyone think it was 5500 kg?</p><p> </p><p>Even the most conservative estimates I have seen, put a minimum of 10 tons- and mostly, the estimates are larger.</p><p> </p><p>People specializing in pneumacity- who stress that most sauropods are much lighter than originally thought- <em>still</em> give estimates of around 12 tons.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hamishspence, post: 4986085, member: 41555"] [b]sauropod size[/b] While base size does not scale well, I figure a 15 ft sauropod body (discounting neck and tail) sitting on a 20 ft base, looks passable. [I]Diplodocus[/I] and [I]Apatosaurus[/I] have very similar body sizes- one is just chunkier than the other. Hence, my idea of [I]Diplodocus[/I] being the smallest (in hit dice) of the Gargantuan diplodocids. Put it on a 15 ft base though- and place it next to other Huge creatures- and it will dwarf them. For skeletal drawings- with a 1 metre scale bar- which can be used to work out how big the "model's base" should be (6m = roughly 20 ft- Gargantuan base size) see here: [URL]http://www.skeletaldrawing.com/sauropods/sauropods.htm[/URL] The artist, who was one of the paleontologists who reconstructed Supersaurus, has a reputation as one of the better dinosaur artists out there. Weight is important- but some creatures are, being lightly built, a little larger than their weight would suggest. Young [I]Diplodocus[/I] could be easily Huge though. One of the things that especially mystifies me are the numerous articles (dated around June 2009) that say that thanks to sizing errors- many of the dinosaur weights need to be revised. [URL]http://dinosaurs.suite101.com/article.cfm/dinosaurs_smaller_than_thought[/URL] All well and good- but they list Diplodocus as being revised downward from 5500 kg to 4000 kg. Since when did anyone think it was 5500 kg? Even the most conservative estimates I have seen, put a minimum of 10 tons- and mostly, the estimates are larger. People specializing in pneumacity- who stress that most sauropods are much lighter than originally thought- [I]still[/I] give estimates of around 12 tons. [/QUOTE]
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