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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 4962464" data-attributes="member: 57383"><p>No argument there! There are a a fair few other dinosaurs in Crichton's books that have imaginary additions, some more plausible than others. The chameleon Carnotaurus is the one I found the most egregious.</p><p></p><p>Cases like the JP <em>Dilophosaurus</em> could be dealt with as two different creatures - a realistic version (Large 6 HD or so lightweight theropod), and the movie/book version (Medium 4 HD predator with venom-spit and scary frill?) for posting in the Phantasy thread. The one in the <em>Jurassic Park</em> film was only half-grown, but I'm sure a lot of people think that's it's standard size so I'd probably stat it up as a Medium animal, despite a real-world adult <em>Dilophosaurus</em> being 20+ feet long.</p><p></p><p>Would we call them different names, or add a fake specific name? E.g.</p><p></p><p><strong>Real:</strong> <em>Dilophosaurus wetherilli</em></p><p><strong>Fictional:</strong> <em>Dilophosaurus nedryphagous</em> "Nedry eating two-crested lizard"</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If you're aiming for a scientifically up to date version, I wouldn't call all those Hadrosaurs "Bogwalkers". While I believe some remains have been found in swamps, they were far more a plains & forest animal.</p><p></p><p>That pdf is very handy for comparing the different conversions though, and it's already shown me another dodgy entry.</p><p></p><p>"Anoplotops Ferox" is an entirely fictional dinosaur from Goodman Games' Dinosaur Planet d20 RPG. Appropriately enough, it's listen in the contents of a Monster Manual entitled <em><strong>Dinosaurs That Never Were</strong></em>. Not only that, but I don't like the stats. Str 20 is feeble for a Huge animal, its challenge rating is way too high (It looks more like a CR8 than a CR16) and its specific name shouldn't be capitalised (i.e. it should be <em>Anoplotops ferox</em> with a small-f.) Well, at least it only has <strong>one</strong> Toughness feat.<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" /></p><p></p><p>Oh yes, you can see a picture of Anoplotops <a href="http://www.goodman-games.com/1004preview.html" target="_blank"><strong>here</strong></a> on Goodman's website if you scroll down a bit. </p><p></p><p>From my first look through, that's the only creature I found that never existed.</p><p></p><p>Some of the others have a few stats I don't like or are a bit too "imaginary" for my tastes, at least for inclusion in this thread. The eusocial <em>Microceratops</em> is an example of the latter, it really belongs in Phantasy. The <em>Giraffatitan</em> is a case of the former - L think most of its stats are fine but its CR18 is way too high. It's more like a CR12.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 4962464, member: 57383"] No argument there! There are a a fair few other dinosaurs in Crichton's books that have imaginary additions, some more plausible than others. The chameleon Carnotaurus is the one I found the most egregious. Cases like the JP [I]Dilophosaurus[/I] could be dealt with as two different creatures - a realistic version (Large 6 HD or so lightweight theropod), and the movie/book version (Medium 4 HD predator with venom-spit and scary frill?) for posting in the Phantasy thread. The one in the [I]Jurassic Park[/I] film was only half-grown, but I'm sure a lot of people think that's it's standard size so I'd probably stat it up as a Medium animal, despite a real-world adult [I]Dilophosaurus[/I] being 20+ feet long. Would we call them different names, or add a fake specific name? E.g. [B]Real:[/B] [I]Dilophosaurus wetherilli[/I] [B]Fictional:[/B] [I]Dilophosaurus nedryphagous[/I] "Nedry eating two-crested lizard" If you're aiming for a scientifically up to date version, I wouldn't call all those Hadrosaurs "Bogwalkers". While I believe some remains have been found in swamps, they were far more a plains & forest animal. That pdf is very handy for comparing the different conversions though, and it's already shown me another dodgy entry. "Anoplotops Ferox" is an entirely fictional dinosaur from Goodman Games' Dinosaur Planet d20 RPG. Appropriately enough, it's listen in the contents of a Monster Manual entitled [I][B]Dinosaurs That Never Were[/B][/I]. Not only that, but I don't like the stats. Str 20 is feeble for a Huge animal, its challenge rating is way too high (It looks more like a CR8 than a CR16) and its specific name shouldn't be capitalised (i.e. it should be [I]Anoplotops ferox[/I] with a small-f.) Well, at least it only has [B]one[/B] Toughness feat.:p Oh yes, you can see a picture of Anoplotops [URL="http://www.goodman-games.com/1004preview.html"][B]here[/B][/URL] on Goodman's website if you scroll down a bit. From my first look through, that's the only creature I found that never existed. Some of the others have a few stats I don't like or are a bit too "imaginary" for my tastes, at least for inclusion in this thread. The eusocial [I]Microceratops[/I] is an example of the latter, it really belongs in Phantasy. The [I]Giraffatitan[/I] is a case of the former - L think most of its stats are fine but its CR18 is way too high. It's more like a CR12. [/QUOTE]
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