[Review, Possible Spoilers] The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen

Kesh

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Caught the first afternoon showing of The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. Settle back if you want to read more...

I had a few options for theaters today. Cinemark would have been my first choice, but the nearest one was across the river in Indiana. About an hour by bus, so I decided to settle with the closest theater. Probably won’t do the same next time.

Don’t get me wrong, it wasn’t a bad theater. It just wasn’t that good either. The outside ticket purchasing was closed, probably to save on air conditioning costs. Once inside, there was a table next to the doors, where solicitors were hawking cheap wares. And of course, you have to pass them to get to the ticket counter.

I bought my tickets and decided to get lunch, since I still had half an hour before the start time. There was a Skyline Chili in the plaza, so I stopped there for a coney. Skyline isn’t my favorite, because they put cocoa powder in their chili as the ‘secret ingredient’, which makes it slightly bitter. But, it’s decent food, and I can’t pass up a good chili dog.

After lunch, I went back in to get my seat. Bought the requisite popcorn, which was really dry. No butter dispensers! Just that powdery butter-flavor you get from microwave popcorn. Meh.

Hm? Oh, right. The movie. Well, part of the reason I’m going on about the theater is that they had some problems showing the film. When the previews were running, the screen started flickering in and out during the trailer for some new Disney flick. Then, the screen blanked, while the audio kept playing. Took them about five minutes to fix that and get the previews running again. Then, just as the movie started... the projector shut off. Another five minutes while they got that running again. After that, things went smoothly.

If you’re not familiar with the film, here’s a basic idea. It’s the turn of the 20th century (1899), and someone is terrorizing Europe. In response, the English crown recruits several extraordinary persons, all pulled from novels of the period. The Invisible Man, Dr. Jeckyll, and many more act as super heroes in this film (which is based on a graphic novel of the same name).

Overall, the film was great. It’s certainly an action flick, but with tons of literary references a geek like myself could enjoy. I caught a few off-hand references to Edgar Allen Poe and Herman Melville, among others. And if you’re familiar with the original comic, be sure to look for some notices posted on a building when our characters visit the wharf early in the film. There’s a nice Easter Egg the filmmaker put in there for you. :)

There’s no mistaking this is an action film, and one with a moderate FX budget. You can tell that a lot of the money went into the set designs and a few CGI specialties, the most noticable being Mr. Hyde (incredibly impressive!) and the Invisible Man (who got very little ‘face time’, so to speak). Overall, the film was well paced and never stuck, though it seemed a bit rushed in a couple spots. The ending was rather abrupt, as well, and could’ve used a few more minutes to wrap up things with the characters.

The plot was rather straightforward, but made sense for the most part. The sore thumbs were the anachronisms, objects that should not exist yet at the time of the story. However, for the most part, I could overlook that. This is a superhero film after all! All the characters were well-acted, though I would’ve preferred some more time to actually see them. With half-a-dozen protagonists, it’s hard to connect with them all, especially if you’re not familiar with them. I must confess, I don’t know Allan Quartermain apart from an 80’s movie King Solomon’s Mines, so I’ll need to find the books he’s in.

Also, the plot twist was pretty obvious to me, and I would expect most people familiar with the characters involved will pick it out as well. I kinda wished they hadn’t done it, because there was so much potential to develop that character... but I won’t spoil it, and it was done well enough.

Speaking of development, they’ve got time. The ending certainly leaves a sequel wide open, should this movie do well in the box offices. And considering the turn-out for a 1 pm showing at a relatively small theater, I think it’s going to do respectably this weekend.

So, short version: movie good... see movie... eat popcorn... watch pretty explosions... watch pretty Sean Connery... *cough* Er, sorry ‘bout that.

Go see it, if you’re in the mood for an action flick. It won’t tax your brain, and if you’re a fan of the period literature, there’s tons of little references you’ll love. If anyone wants me to post a spoilerific review, speak up and I’ll do so.
 
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ArcOfCorinth said:
Question: Is Tom Sawyer really a CIA agent in it?

No. Treasury (Secret Service) agent. The CIA did not exist in 1899.

Saw the movie today. Contra Kesh's review, I found LXG (I hate that abbreviation! Extraordinary does not start with an X!) to be medicore at best.

The dialogue is horrible. Think X-Men 1. The constant, trite literary references are inane. It sounded the writers skimmed a Western Lit 101 sampler for sound bites.

Sean Connery's performance is flat and uninspiring. Ever since he won an Oscar, he's stopped acting. He just plays Connery. Also, he's onscreen too much, and too little time and attention is paid to the interesting characters (especially Nemo and Dorian Gray).

The villain, the Phantom, is unconvincing. Basically, he's an evil capitalist. It's like that's his super-power. :rolleyes:

The CGI effects for Hyde were clunky (think direct-to-video/DVD quality) and drew way too much attention to themselves, especially during scenes where the character is not involved in action. IOW, when you have time to look at CGI Hyde, he looks that much worse.

The plot is just way too hokey, even for a comic book movie. Way too many ridiculous turns of events, none of which I'll get into since this is supposed to be spoiler free.

This is one I'll not be taking the children to see. They can wait for the DVD, which will probably be in stores in time for Christmas.
 
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And to contrast Marks, I loved it.

On the visual side of things: I though the CGI for Hyde was far better than the CGI for "The Hulk", the set design was spectacular...The CGI Nautilus was very nice, too. Props and costumes were all top-notch.

The acting was decent, at least, and while Connery was, yes, playing Connery, it fit the role. The only person whos acting I really didn't like was Ms. I wasn't crazy about Sawyer's, who was basicly the sterotypical bumbling, gun-crazy, unlucky-but-eternaly-optimistic-with women American of pulp stories. Even then, the acting wasn't too bad. The acting for The Invisible Man was surprisingly good, and I liked the actors portrayal of Dorian.

Sound was unmemorable, but not bad. I don't particularly remember any music, though there must have been some, and the sound effects all worked, except for the exposions, which I thought were a bit muted, though maybe that's just comparision shock from Terminator 3.

The plot was good, with few major holes.

The dialoge was good for the pulp genre. It's not shakespear, but for what it is supposed to be, it works quite well.

And, overall, it left a warm-fuzzy feeling. I never once asked myself "How much longer is this going to go on?", unlike the half-dozen times I asked myself that during Hulk, and I was somewhat let down that it ended so soon... I wanted more. So it passes the intangible test too.
 

Mark Chance said:


No. Treasury (Secret Service) agent. The CIA did not exist in 1899.

I know the CIA didn't exist then. I had heard a rumor that he was in it, however and was seeking confirmation. If you had said he was, I wouldn't see this movie simply because of that gross (in my opinion lol) error.
 

This movie has an awesome look to it. The art design team did a bang up job. There was even small stuff I thought looked great. Like the diving suits that Nemo's crew wore. Only see like 2 guys wearing them for a brief second.

I thought the acting was fine. I thought the special effects were fine.

What I didn't like however were the usual shakey camera-in-too-close-style of filming fights. On top of that hyper kinetic style of fight filming (which is can easily be done bad), you had quick rapid fire cuts. That's bad when there's three or so different fights going on and you're doing stuff like having three cuts for one or two sword swings and then cutting to the next fight which is shaking and too close just like the previous fight. Sometimes it takes the viewer that much longer to realize the camera switched fights on him/her and your watching another fight. :(

Another thing I thought made the movie bad was the lack of proper writing to tie up either details or proper motivation that makes good drama.

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I'll highlight a few to the best of my memories and see if you agree.


1.) The Nautilus is taking on lots of water due to sabotage. Captain Nemo's dialogue is mostly about giving orders to the crew to shut off the flooded compartments (even if it means sacrificing some men who are still in those compartments). Never at any point do I hear him say anything like, " We cant blow out the ballast tanks to surface! The mechanism must be stuck!"

Because we don't hear something kind of like that, we wonder what the heck Jekyll/Hyde can do when he runs for the flooded compartments to help. That and how would he know what to have done anyway? Its not like Nemo said something like, "If someone could just manually open the shutters....we might just have a chance!" Or whatever.

Okay, I know some of you will say I'm nick picking...but I was willing to let it slide if that was the ONLY small bit of story sloppiness encountered. But it wasn't.


2.) About Tom Sawyer.....how did he know how to drive
Nemo's car?

3.) Dorian jumps out of the car and rolls effortlessly onto his feet. Okay, he's obviously very skilled. I'll accept that.

Quartermain jumps out of speeding car and lands straight directly dead stop on both feet. OOoookay.

4.) Why did "The Phantom" bomb Venice? He could've still accomplished his goal without all that hub bub right? I mean, by that time Hyde was already captured. The spy had all the samples by then....why the extra effort to blow up some buildings?

5.)Some set-ups a little unclear.

Okay, the plan to keep the important target buildings from being hit by the domino of falling unimportant buildings was to blow up one of the unimportant buildings along the chain of buildings before the domino falling effect got to it right?

One building can't push the next one over if that building is already demolished/laying on the ground right?

Well, the building that they destroyed had a big gap of water that Tom Sawyer jumped over in the car. The way it was filmed, it looked like Tom was driving in front of the falling domino effect. If that's the case, why blow up the building? The last building before that gap he jumped would'nt hit that target building anyways. It would've just fallen into the water and the domino effect would've stopped right there anyways. Which means the bad guys planned that one wrong huh?

6.) Harker vs. Gray fight.

Putting a sword through a vampire's stomach stops/kills them? And if it does, why take it out? Its not like he staked her in the heart or even staked her. That whole scene was messed up.

Also, Dorian obviously sees that Mina is about to show him his painting. Why did he keep his eyes open and on it? I think it would've been cooler to see him resist by closing his eyes as she held up the painting. Then Mina takes two fingers and rips the skin flaps of his eye lids off to so he HAS TO SEE the painting. Although that might've gotten the movie bumped up to "R" rating rather than just the "PG-13" one.

But you get what I'm saying right?

7.) The main bad guy ( MAJOR SPOILER )

Okay buddy, what are you? The Phantom? M? Moriarty? Moriarty's cousin's sister's nephew? What? Make up your mind.



8.) The grave scene at the end. SILLY.


This movie had great potential. And true, it wasn't a total stinker like "The Hulk". But all the sloppy film making by the director, writer, cinematographer (or all three) unfairly lowered the score for all the other people who worked so hard on this film. They did their job well.

A lot of cool scenes and fun moments. The idea behind The League is so cool that I still give it an extra point score despite the other flaws.

But in the end I'm still grading it a 4.5 out 10
 
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It held my interest to the end, but was pretty lame, and even laughable in parts. I'm glad some of you were impressed with Hyde's CGI considering....it was a guy in a latex suit. The dude who knocks Hyde around at the end was the CG one (and poorly done).
 
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Tsyr wrote:
The whole "Why blow up venice" thing was explained... to start a World War.

Ah yes...that's true. In order for the villian to sell his goods, there needs to be a war. I guess I blinked and missed that point. My apologies.

Although I would've liked to seen one small quick scene showing the villian implementing or talking about his alternative plan to spark world war since the whole Venice thing was thwarted.
 
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Chain Lightning said:
1.) The Nautilus is taking on lots of water due to sabotage. Captain Nemo's dialogue is mostly about giving orders to the crew to shut off the flooded compartments (even if it means sacrificing some men who are still in those compartments). Never at any point do I hear him say anything like, " We cant blow out the ballast tanks to surface! The mechanism must be stuck!"

I'll agree with you here. I think the editors got a little overzealous with some scenes, and that very important bit got cut out.


2.) About Tom Sawyer.....how did he know how to drive Nemo's car?

He's American! :cool:

Seriously, that bugged me at first too. I have to guess Nemo was telling him how it worked during the voyage.


3.) Dorian jumps out of the car and rolls effortlessly onto his feet. Okay, he's obviously very skilled. I'll accept that.

Quartermain jumps out of speeding car and lands straight directly dead stop on both feet. OOoookay.

I didn't even notice this one! Good catch.


4.) Why did "The Phantom" bomb Venice?

As stated, he still wanted to start a World War. Plus, this distracts the heroes, giving our traitor a chance to slip away with the goods.

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Well, the building that they destroyed had a big gap of water that Tom Sawyer jumped over in the car. The way it was filmed, it looked like Tom was driving in front of the falling domino effect. If that's the case, why blow up the building? The last building before that gap he jumped would'nt hit that target building anyways. It would've just fallen into the water and the domino effect would've stopped right there anyways. Which means the bad guys planned that one wrong huh?

I'd say this was just a bad decision by the CGI folks to make it look more dramatic. They did make the gap way too big.


6.) Harker vs. Gray fight.

Putting a sword through a vampire's stomach stops/kills them? And if it does, why take it out? Its not like he staked her in the heart or even staked her. That whole scene was messed up.

Made sense to me. Dorian didn't know how to kill a vampire, so he just ran her through. Worked well enough... until he mistakenly pulled it out, allowing her to heal.


7.) The main bad guy ( MAJOR SPOILER )

Moriarty, pretending to be someone else, pretending to be someone else. Rather like him, I'd say. :D


8.) The grave scene at the end. SILLY.

Nope. I thought it was perfect, leaving the thing wide open for the next movie. ;)

Overall, I'd give it 3 stars (out of 5). It's not great, but it's entertaining and holds together respectably.
 

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