range increments for rays & ranged touch attacks?

sbwoodside

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What is the range increment for a ranged touch attack? If a 12th level wizard fires a ray of disintegration at a foe 220 feet away, what attack penalty does the wizard take? What about spells that are not considered rays, like fireball: do they automatically hit a desired target at distances of over 400 feet (even if the target is in mid-air)?

I think it should be harder to hit someone with a ray when they're far away, but I can't find anything in the core rule books that comments on range increments for spell rays.

Simon Woodside
 

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sbwoodside said:
What is the range increment for a ranged touch attack? If a 12th level wizard fires a ray of disintegration at a foe 220 feet away, what attack penalty does the wizard take? What about spells that are not considered rays, like fireball: do they automatically hit a desired target at distances of over 400 feet (even if the target is in mid-air)?

I think it should be harder to hit someone with a ray when they're far away, but I can't find anything in the core rule books that comments on range increments for spell rays.

Simon Woodside

so, idioth, read the discription for the spell. its in it. turn to page 195 of your players hand book. under the spell "disintegrate" it has a listing for "range" and its listed as (100 ft + 10ft/level). this is the max range, their are no range penalties. a ray is just a straight line of what ever, unaffected by gravity like a arrow shot from a long bow.
 

There are no range increments for rays. You can assume that any difficulties in aiming a ray only become noticeable at ranges beyond what the ray can reach.

Here's a rhread on rec.games.frp.dnd on this subject:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&threadm=el1m7uk9dsk44lj7ia9hn79728pg968240@4ax.com&rnum=1

Similarly, by the book, aiming a fireball takes the same amount of skill whether it's far away or close in. I suppose you could require a ranged touch attack for really long-range (ie: difficult) shots, as is alluded to in the spell description.
 



hammymchamham said:
thats not a character name idioth

COMPETITION! Insert punctuation marks in this fragment fragment so it makes sense, and is funny! Swopping letters around is not allowed, but rearranging them is.

Here's my go:

"Thats" not a character, "Name Idioth"

That snot? A character, name id: Oth.

That snotachar. Acter name? Idiot. H!

Tha' ts' not a character. Name? I? "Dioth".
 

hong said:


COMPETITION! Insert punctuation marks in this fragment fragment so it makes sense, and is funny! Swopping letters around is not allowed, but rearranging them is.

Here's my go:

"Thats" not a character, "Name Idioth"

That snot? A character, name id: Oth.

That snotachar. Acter name? Idiot. H!

Tha' ts' not a character. Name? I? "Dioth".

Me thinks part of your competition's discription needs to be reworded perhaps remove one fragment so it reads "fragment" instead of "fragment fragment." how in da hell am i arguing with a desendent of criminals about the use of language
 

hammymchamham said:
Me thinks part of your competition's discription needs to be reworded perhaps remove one fragment so it reads "fragment" instead of "fragment fragment." how in da hell am i arguing with a desendent of criminals about the use of language

Nonsense! It makes perfect sense. Your clutch of words was so fragmentary that it didn't even count as a fragment. It was a mere fragment of a fragment, hence "fragment fragment". I also notice you have used a capital letter in "Me" for the first time in this thread. Keep it up.
 

hong said:


Nonsense! It makes perfect sense. Your clutch of words was so fragmentary that it didn't even count as a fragment. It was a mere fragment of a fragment, hence "fragment fragment". I also notice you have used a capital letter in "Me" for the first time in this thread. Keep it up.

Hong, play nice. Not everyonje is blessed with the ability to properly communicate in a manner that others can fully understand.

But that alternate punctuation was priceless. :D
 

I've been wondering about ranged touch on great distances as well.
Take Melf's Acid Arrow, enlarging that 7 times would make it hit a target 9600 feet away.

Personally I can't even spot a human being 9600 feet away, even if I knew it was there and had a 'line of sight'.

I don't find this question "idiotic" hammymchamham.
 

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