Q: magic immunity and indirect effects

[RogerBacon]

Let’s say that creature ‘A’ is immune to magic (like that tiger-looking creature that is immune to all spells of 8th level or lower). Does this mean only spells that target the creature or include it in the area of effect (like magic missiles and fireballs) or does it include the effects of any spell (like I cast a spell to grow magical claws and attack creature ‘A’ with them)?

Roger Bacon

 

[Dr_Rictus]

Creatures who are immunities to magic are generally treated as having spell resistance that cannot be breached.

 

[jontherev]

SRD:"Rakshasas ignore the effects of spells and spell-like abilities of 8th level or less, just as if the spellcaster had failed to overcome spell resistance."

Notice the word 'effects'. Magical claws of less than 9th level won't effect them.

 

[hong]

SRD:"Rakshasas ignore the effects of spells and spell-like abilities of 8th level or less, just as if the spellcaster had failed to overcome spell resistance."

Notice the word 'effects'. Magical claws of less than 9th level won't effect them.

Huh?

 

[jontherev]

My goodness! I just noticed they had a DR 20/+3 to go along with that near spell immunity. There's no way they are a simple CR 9. At that level, it's quite possible that no one in the party has a +3 weapon. Anyone else think that's a wee bit low?

 

[jontherev]

Huh?

Which word confused you?

 

[hong]

My goodness! I just noticed they had a DR 20/+3 to go along with that near spell immunity. There's no way they are a simple CR 9. At that level, it's quite possible that no one in the party has a +3 weapon. Anyone else think that's a wee bit low?

Greater magic weapon.

 

[jontherev]

Greater magic weapon.

Yeah, that helps IF you have it memorized. I thought about that before I posted, but it doesn't seem helpful enough to make a CR 9 a fair rating imo. It's certainly more dangerous than the CR 10 Roper.

 

[Dreaddisease]

What about throwing an Antimagic field in there? We had this question last night while trying to suppress some spells cast on a golem, but our DM was ruling that with magic immunity it wasn't effecting him. Suddenly we had Mr. Invincible Golem.

I agree with the Rakshashas CR problem, though that is really a problem with the spells they have along with the DR and other problems.

 

[Berk]

indirect effects still affect creatures with spell immunities. If I cast greater magic weapon on my sword and attack the golem the sword will act like a magical sword. It won't not work on the golem because the golem is immune to that spell.
*waits patiently for time stop to hijack the thread*