Power Attack + Critical?

[Arravis]

On a critical hit, is the added Power Attack damage multiplied? Is it considered part of "normal" weapon damage, as per the SRD:
"Extra damage dice over and above a weapon’s normal damage are never multiplied."
Any advice on this would be appreciated, thanks guys!

 

[Henry]

Yep - if you threaten a critical, you apply all the same modifiers (including penalty to hit for power attack) to the confirmation roll. If you successfully critical, ALL damage is multiplied, except actual extra damage DICE, such as sneak attack, the d6 from a flaming weapon, etc.

First-level fighter, 13 STR, power-attacking for 2 points, single-handed with a longsword. the to-hit is +0 (+1 from BAB, +1 from STR, -2 from power attack) with 1d8+3 damage if I hit.

If I hit & roll a threaten while doing it (say a 19) then I have to confirm with another to-hit roll of +0. If I critical, then I deal 2d8+6. Take the risk, get the payoff.

 

[Rystil Arden]

On a critical hit, is the added Power Attack damage multiplied? Is it considered part of "normal" weapon damage, as per the SRD:
"Extra damage dice over and above a weapon’s normal damage are never multiplied."
Any advice on this would be appreciated, thanks guys!

Its not a dice, hence it is indeed multiplied. With a big multiplier and 3.5's new Power Atatck rules, you can see some heavy damage done this way.

 

[scrubkai]

First-level fighter, 13 STR, power-attacking for 2 points, single-handed with a longsword. the to-hit is +0 (+1 from BAB, +1 from STR, -2 from power attack) with 1d8+3 damage if I hit.

Wait per the SRD: the number you subtract from your To Hit to add to damage, "may not exceed your base attack bonus. " Thus in the example above you can only use power attack for one point.

So I thought the numbers would have to be
First-level fighter, 13 STR, power-attacking for 1 point, single-handed with a longsword. the to-hit is +1 (+1 from BAB, +1 from STR, -1 from power attack) with 1d8+2 damage if I hit.
Or 2d8+4 damage on a critical.

 

[Storminator]

Wait per the SRD: the number you subtract from your To Hit to add to damage, "may not exceed your base attack bonus. " Thus in the example above you can only use power attack for one point.

So I thought the numbers would have to be
First-level fighter, 13 STR, power-attacking for 1 point, single-handed with a longsword. the to-hit is +1 (+1 from BAB, +1 from STR, -1 from power attack) with 1d8+2 damage if I hit.
Or 2d8+4 damage on a critical.

You are correct. Henry looked before he leaped.

PS

 

[Philip]

As Rystil pointed out, the 'critical' word here is DICE.

Damage is a die = not multiplied on critical
Damage is not a die = multiplied on critical

 

[Brain]

One of my DM's has an interesting way of looking at two-handed power attacks with criticals. He says that since the amount you power attack has in effect been multiplied by two already (the -1 for +2 thing for two handed) then the multipliers are additive. So a power attack for -1 would give +3 dmg on a crit instead of +4 (with a x2 weapon).

This may or may not be RAW, but I like the way it works.

 

[Darkness]

So I thought the numbers would have to be
First-level fighter, 13 STR, power-attacking for 1 point, single-handed with a longsword. the to-hit is +1 (+1 from BAB, +1 from STR, -1 from power attack) with 1d8+2 damage if I hit.
Or 2d8+4 damage on a critical.

I fondly remember:

First-level orc barbarian, 24 Str (20 +4 rage), power-attacking for 1 point, two-handed* with a greataxe. To hit: +7 (+1 BAB +7 Str, -1 PA), for 1d12+12* damage - 3d12+36* on a crit.
He rolled something like 12, 12, 10, slaughtering an 8 HD bearded devil.

(*That was in 3.0, so damage was actually slightly lower than the figures given above.)

Hm. He might have been slightly higher-level than 1st...

 

[Rystil Arden]

I fondly remember:

First-level orc barbarian, 24 Str (20 +4 rage), power-attacking for 1 point, two-handed* with a greataxe. To hit: +7 (+1 BAB +7 Str, -1 PA), for 1d12+12* damage - 3d12+36* on a crit.
He rolled something like 12, 12, 10, slaughtering an 8 HD bearded devil.

(*That was in 3.0, so damage was actually slightly lower than the figures given above.)

Hm. He might have been slightly higher-level than 1st...

Fun stuff. Reminds me of the 4th-level fighter cohort who killed a 3.0 balor in one round...evil outsiders died really fast; 3.0 was interesting that way

 

[Henry]

Virtual "D'OH!"

I started writing with a generic "+2 to damage", but added the example to be clear. Should've used a 2nd level fighter, but I wanted to keep it simple.