Point Blank Shot and Precise Shot and Spells

[Gregor]

Hey there,

I am sure this has been asked countless times before, so please forgive me :\

Do the feats Point Blank Shot and Precise Shot apply to spells that require ranged touch attacks (e.g. rays)? I seem to recall this being the case, but I need to know for sure.

I am currently playing a 5th level Elven Wizard and I just took a level in Fighter, in hopes of moving towards Eldritch Knight. I chose the feats Point Blank Shot and Precise Shot to help me at my archery, but I wondered if it had the added benefit of improving my rays and other ranged touch attach spells.

My thanks for any and all assistance!

Cheers,

 

[Mechnomancer]

they apply to any and all ranged attack rolls. Ranged touch included.

 

[Bryntryst]

Yes they do.

 

[Infiniti2000]

they apply to any and all ranged attack rolls. Ranged touch included.

No, they don't. They apply to attack rolls (and damage rolls for PBS) with ranged weapons. It's a significant difference. Now, the real meat of the debate becomes, "Are spells such as 'effect: ray' spells ranged weapons?" Complete Arcane (and the Tome book in 3.0) say yes. Most people will in fact say yes, but there are a few detractors. You definitely get them with wands, however, since wands are clearly denoted as weapon-like.

 

[Dracorat]

They apply. The PHB classifies rays as weapons. If you look up weapon focus, they are even listed.

 

[Gregor]

Thanks!

That helps clean things up. Look at the PHB under weapon focus you say? *does so* I see...

 

[Olgar Shiverstone]

Don't forget that you can crit with rays, too. Ouch.

 

[Cedric]

No, they don't. They apply to attack rolls (and damage rolls for PBS) with ranged weapons. It's a significant difference. Now, the real meat of the debate becomes, "Are spells such as 'effect: ray' spells ranged weapons?" Complete Arcane (and the Tome book in 3.0) say yes. Most people will in fact say yes, but there are a few detractors. You definitely get them with wands, however, since wands are clearly denoted as weapon-like.

The weapon focus feat specifies that "ray" is a weapon. I agree with other posters, definitely allowed to take Weapon feats and Ranged feats.