D&D 3E/3.5 Please Help with 3.5 Spring Attack Feat.

[Hackenslash]

Hi all,

I was looking through the feats in the new 3.5 PH and came across the Spring Attack Feat. Now it states in the description that you can attack and spring away within your same turn etc...up to your base movement rate...Cool. But how many attacks do you get when you get there and would it classify as a full round attack action. OR. Do you just get one attack and then spring away and that's it for the round, but then it's only a standard action as you have only had one attack. Right ? If this is correct then it seems pretty weak for High Level characters. But, I think the way it's worded that it may mean a full attack action, and thus you get all your attacks, and then spring away, but again it is not clear. So any thoughts or rules clarification gurus out there. Cheers for any help forth coming.

 

[AGGEMAM]

Spring Attack still reads 'when using the attack action'.

'The attack action' is a single melee or ranged attack.

But since ranged attacks doesn't apply here, in that it specifies 'with a melee weapon'.

 

[Nail]

Just one attack.

You need a full round action to attack more than once. This feat doesn't change that. (Although a successful Improved Trip would....hint, hint....)

 

[AGGEMAM]

(Although a successful Improved Trip would....hint, hint....)

That precludes that the weapon you are using is a special trip weapon, or that you are either a monk or has the improved unarmed strike feat.

 

[Hackenslash]

Ok so it's only one attack...I'll live with that...BUT ?

Cool I'll live with that.

Nail - Could you tell me how "Improved Trip" could benefit the "Spring Attack" allowing more attacks ? Would you spring in with one attack to trip and then get the remaining attacks if you were successfull triping. I am designing a Hobgoblin Monk of 14th Level, one off Quivering Palm...bummer !!! and Monks get Improved Trip as a Bonus Feat but I was not gonna take it in favor of something else. Can't remember what now and don't have my books with me. Any advice would be appreciated. Cheers

 

[Camarath]

Re: Ok so it's only one attack...I'll live with that...BUT ?

Could you tell me how "Improved Trip" could benefit the "Spring Attack" allowing more attacks ?

From SRD
IMPROVED TRIP [GENERAL]
Prerequisites: Int 13, Combat Expertise.
Benefit: You do not provoke an attack of opportunity when you attempt to trip an opponent while you are unarmed. You also gain a +4 bonus on your Strength check to trip your opponent.
If you trip an opponent in melee combat, you immediately get a melee attack against that opponent as if you hadn’t used your attack for the trip attempt.


You preform a trip attack and then get an additional melee attack. Also the only feat you can take in place of Improved Trip as a Monk is Improved Disarm (also nice with spring attack).

 

[Nail]

Re: Re: Ok so it's only one attack...I'll live with that...BUT ?

You preform a trip attack and then get an additional melee attacks.

Bingo.

Correct, as always, Camarath.

Here's the best part: If you succeed at the trip, you don't have to spring back. Just stay there* an' AoO him when the poor fool gets back up.

*That is to say, move 5 afterwards, while staying within the threatening range. The feat requires you to move both bfore and after your move, minimum 5 feet.

 

[AGGEMAM]

Re: Re: Re: Ok so it's only one attack...I'll live with that...BUT ?

Here's the best part: If you succeed at the trip, you don't have to spring back. Just stay there an AoO him when the poor fool gets back up.

Not excately.

You must move at least 5 feet both before and after you make your attack in order to utilize the benefits of Spring Attack.

EDIT: oh, you edited, ok.

Btw, remember that thing about it bieng an unarmed or a special trip weapon.

 

[Nail]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Ok so it's only one attack...I'll live with that...BUT ?

Not excately.



EDIT: oh, you edited, ok.

Btw, remember that thing about it bieng an unarmed or a special trip weapon.

Right. I caught that after I hit "send". I've got the SRD open in a separate window.

Still, having to move 5 feet after the attack is no biggie, and doesn't squash the tactic.

Monks are probably the only class that can use Spring Attack effectively. No one else has the necessary movement rate.

 

[Camarath]

Re: Re: Re: Ok so it's only one attack...I'll live with that...BUT ?

Correct, as always, Camarath.

Sorry, I missed the S at the end of attack. I edited it so it should be correct now.