Multiple Harpies -- Multiple Saves?

[Quasqueton]

Say there are two harpies singing. Do the PCs need to make two seperate saves? 4 harpies -- 4 saves? Or should/could it be one save with +2 to the DC for each harpy after the first? Or just one save at the normal DC?

I just had a party of five 5th-level PCs encounter two harpies (EL 6). I didn't make them roll two saves (forgot about it in this instance), but even the one save snared all but the ranger/rogue. A *very* near TPK in an encounter that should merely have been tough.

Multiple harpies could be really dangerous forcing multiple DC 16 will saves.

Quasqueton

 

[Altamont Ravenard]

If the save is successful, that creature cannot be affected again by that harpy’s song for one day

A creature that successfully saves cannot be affected again by the same harpy’s song for 24 hours

IMO, you could follow the rule that no 2 similar effect may apply to a single situation, ie that it doesn't matter if 2 harpies sing, only one may be able to captivate at a time.

If the first harpy sings, and, say, only captivates 1 victim, then it could stop and let the other harpy try and captivate more victims.

What would happen if a character was captivated by 2 or more harpies at the same time?

AR

 

[melkoriii]

I would have each PC make a save for each Harpy song. If they fail the first one then I would forgo the second.

They would only be affected by one song at any given time.
If 4 Wizard PC's cast Charm Person on one NPC would you give him only one save? Nope.

 

[smetzger]

It seems pretty clear that this would be multiple saves. Deadly, but clear.