Monk's in a Anti-magic field?

[Bloodhawk]

Hello all,

I have a question I'm hoping you guys can help me with.

I'm at work so this is coming off the top of my head.

Ki strike from a monk is considered a supernatural ability, there for it should not work in a anti-magic field. Yes?
If this is true.. What about the monks AC bonus or the Wis mod to the AC bonus? In the players hand book it describes this Monk's AC as a (sixth sense) or a preternatural ability. The question is do monks keep there AC and AC bonus from Wis inside a anti-magic field? or would it be considered part of the monks Ki ability and void in anti-magic field?

This has been in debate in my group for a while, was hoping to get some opinions.

Thank you,

Bloodhawk

 

[AuraSeer]

Ki strike from a monk is considered a supernatural ability, there for it should not work in a anti-magic field. Yes?

Yes.
But this is totally separate from the Wisdom AC modifier. They're completely distinct powers. What part of the rules makes you think they're linked?

Anyway, since the Wis AC mod has no ability type listed, it's an Extraordinary ability and does not go away in an antimagic area.

 

[Darklone]

Was it in the errata where they defined the different abilities as Supernatural or Extraordinary?

 

[Bloodhawk]

I agree with you AuraSeer. I'm just trying to get the other people in my group to see the same thing...

One of the guys in the group was trying to say it was a Ki ability so he could double his AC with the 10th level red advenger ability.
But that is another argument to deal with later..

Thanks for the help guys..

Bloodhawk

 

[Maitre Du Donjon]

From the SRD

A monk adds her Wisdom bonus (if any) to AC, in addition to her normal Dexterity modifier, and her AC improves as she gains levels. (Only add this extra AC bonus if the total of the monk's Wisdom modifier and the number in the "AC Bonus" column is a positive number.) The Wisdom bonus and the AC bonus represent a preternatural awareness of danger, and a monk does not lose either even in situations when he or she loses her Dexterity modifier due to being unprepared, ambushed, stunned, and so on. (Monks do lose these AC bonuses when immobilized.)

and a few lines down...

Ki Strike: At 10th level, a monk's unarmed attack is empowered with ki. The unarmed strike damage from such an attack can deal damage to a creature with damage reduction as if the blow were made with a weapon with a +1 enhancement bonus. Ki strike is a supernatural ability.

So, yes, they are two separate abilities. I must admit i don't know what "perternatural" means.

Maitre D

 

[Unseelie]

Main Entry: pre·ter·nat·u·ral
Pronunciation: "prE-t&r-'na-ch&-r&l, -'nach-r&l
Function: adjective
Etymology: Medieval Latin praeternaturalis, from Latin praeter naturam beyond nature
Date: 1580
1 : existing outside of nature
2 : exceeding what is natural or regular : EXTRAORDINARY <wits trained to preternatural acuteness by the debates -- G. L. Dickinson>
3 : inexplicable by ordinary means; especially : PSYCHIC <preternatural phenomena>

 

[AuraSeer]

One of the guys in the group was trying to say it was a Ki ability so he could double his AC with the 10th level red advenger ability.

Next time the munchkin mentions this, feel free to laugh in his face. He hasn't got a leg to stand on.

 

[Xarlen]

Monks would be so very nasty in an Anti-magic field.

 

[Bloodhawk]

Yes monks are nasty in a anti-magic field... This is the first time I think my group is really hashing out the rules when it come to anti-magic.. why you ask?
Are DM just made are world a anti-magic world in the middle of are campaign... so we have been working it out.. what works and what don't.
Thanks for all the input...

Bloodhawk

 

[Taloras]

Isnt most damage reduction supernatural? Therefore it goes away with an antimagic field, right? Whats the need for ki strike then? But anyway, the monks wisdom bonus to AC is simply a very good awareness of his surroundings, not anything magical that the anti magic field can take away. However, once his movement has gone past 50 i believe, it becomes supernatural, so any movement past 50 doesnt work in an antimagic field, and it also isnt doubled by boots of striding and springing.