Mage of Arcane Order scribing a scroll

[mobuttu]

Can a Mage of Arcane Order scribe a scroll using a spell called from his pool?

Q. (sorry for my bad english)

 

[Sound of Azure]

Unfortunately, no.

A scroll takes a full day to scribe per 1,000gp of its cost, so a called spell doesn't remain with the Mage of the Arcane Order long enough to make magic items with (they stay for a number of minutes equal to their caster level).

You could houserule it so that a scroll takes less time if its cost is less than 1,000 gp (time to scribe being proportional to the cost).

Your english is fine, by the way.

 

[Hypersmurf]

Unfortunately, no.

A scroll takes a full day to scribe per 1,000gp of its cost, so a called spell doesn't remain with the Mage of the Arcane Order long enough to make magic items with (they stay for a number of minutes equal to their caster level).

I was going to suggest calling the spell, placing it in a Ring of Spell Storing, and scribing the scroll from there...

... but oddly, even though you cast the spell from the Ring, you can't, apparently, use it in item creation. You can use a Spell Completion or Spell Trigger item... but the ring isn't one of those. And while the ring gives you the ability to cast the spell, that doesn't help; you need to have prepared the spell, or know the spell. Just being able to cast it isn't enough!

-Hyp.

 

[Sound of Azure]

Hey, I didn't consider that option (even if it doesn't work that way)!

Wait.

Aren't you supposed to be able to make magic items if you have access to a spell through imbue with spell ability? I could be misremembering this, however. :\

 

[mobuttu]

you need to have prepared the spell, or know the spell. Just being able to cast it isn't enough!

You are right, but while on one hand, the description on MoAO states that the mage doesn't learn the called spell, according to "All about Making Magic Items" from WotC Rules section:

To provide a spell prerequisite, a character must have prepared the spell (or know the spell, in the case of a sorcerer or bard). The rules say you can use a spell completion or spell trigger magic item or a spell-like ability that produces the desired spell effect to provide a spell prerequisite. A command or use-activated item cannot provide a spell prerequisite.

Which seems to indicate that it isn't necessary to really know the spell, as you can cast it fas a Spell-like ability which is what Spellpool is, according to Tome & Blood manual (sorry I haven't Complete Arcana with me). Moreover, according to the above the 1 minute countdown it isn't relevant as far as the mage cast it at the beginning of the item creation process.

Something inside me agrees with you and tells me that I woudn't permit the mage do scrolls from called spells, but I don't seem to find the precise rule to state that and my players are very rules lawyers. Can you help me?

Q. (sorry for my bad english)

 

[Hypersmurf]

Moreover, according to the above the 1 minute countdown it isn't relevant as far as the mage cast it at the beginning of the item creation process.

No, it says the material components are expended at the beginning; it says the spell is expended 'while writing', which is what you're doing the whole day, effectively.

-Hyp.

 

[Tiberius]

You could use a Dedicated Wright from the Eberron Campaign Setting. It's an item crafting homonculous; you cast the spells required by the item into the Wright, give it the materials, and let it do its thing. After the proper length of time, you get a scroll (or other item, depending on what feats you have).