Learn to play a musical instrument?

Tiew

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Hey everybody, I've always enjoyed music, but I've never learned to play anything. (Family did not have much money for such things when I was young.) Now I'm in my early 20s and I have a job, so the money is there if I wanted to pursue it.

My question is, how many hours does it take to learn to play and how rewarding is it? Is it something worth picking up as an adult? I'm thinking guitar or some other non-classy instrument. All the people I know who play classy intruments (flute, violin, chello) are much more hardcore then I could be. What are people's experiences? Worth considering or too big a risk of picking it up and never going anywhere with it?
 

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Guitar (if you want to sing along).
Recorder (if you don't want to sing along.)
Keyboards (if you want to pick up classy women.)
Drums (if you want to pick up not-so-classy women.)

;)
 

I'm pretty much self taught on guitar, with a few hints from other players. It's not too hard to become basically proficient. In my experience it took a few weeks to a couple of months to get past the first big learning bump; getting your hands used to holding the instrument, and having the guitar feel natural as opposed to foriegn.

After that it becomes a lot easier to learn new chords and scales, etc. how good you wan to get is up to you and the style you want to play. I know that the first year I played I learned a lot of speed metal and got to be pretty technically proficient. Later my musical tastes changed, and I can no longer play those Hammett solos, but my idea of what is good music has changed some.
 

You can kind of teach yourself guitar and piano. Other instruments, particularly wind instruments, take a bit more effort and time to play well.

Though, once you play well, it's rewarding no matter which instrument you play. Choose something that appeals to you and stick to it.

-Jdvn1
clarinet, drums, a little guitar, a little piano
 

Yeah - I hafta agree with the pthers in that guitar seems the most user friendly instrument for self-teachers. My youngest brother pretty much has been teaching himself for a long, long time now ... eight or ten years? ... and he's pretty good.
 

Of course, if the length of time it takes to learn to play an instrument is concerning you, you could always opt for the cymbals, triangle, or tambourine. :)

Johnathan
 

Richards said:
Of course, if the length of time it takes to learn to play an instrument is concerning you, you could always opt for the cymbals, triangle, or tambourine. :)

Johnathan

Hey now, don't make fun of the poor lazy person. :-) I'm just afraid if it takes to long to start seeing payoff I'll quit like the wimpy quiter I sometimes am. Sigh, I kind of enjoy having a very relaxed life-style but it definitely limits my options.
 

Obviously there are no hardcore percussionists on this board becuase to play the triangle or the cymbals CORRECTLY takes months of INTENSE practice. BTW did I mention I'm a percussionist. :)

However, the question here is WHY do you want to learn an instrument? Do you savvy yourself a musician, do you just want to pass the time, do you just want to have fun? Each person picking up an instrument has different reasons, each of these reasons warrants a different answer or direction to take this conversation. However, in the spirit of solving problems without knowing all the facts (a staple of EBBs, chatroom and forums) I shall try to give an answer, it may not be brief.

If you are looking far an "easy" instrument to play, percussion is the most basic set of instruments to tackle. Anyone can physically cause a percussion instrument to function, any two objects that strike each other qualifies and I have personally used and seen common ordinary objects used in orchestral pieces (my favorite was a ball peen hammer striking a cast itron skillet) The problem with percussion, is that most people think drumset, and though it is cool to play drums and we get the best chicks (regardless of what the other band members think) to play well takes coordination and MOST people don't have what it takes. Here is a test, pat you head with your right hand, rub you tummy in a circular motion with your left hand, tap your left foot on the opposite beat to the right hand, tap your right foot on every third beat of your right hand - if you can't do this in about ten minutes of trying, please don't spend hundreds of dollars on a kit and end up frustrated. Bongos, congas, and other Latin percussion is easily learned (take hand, strike heads) but difficult to master (ie after 12 years I still don't hold a candle to a real Latin percussionist) but are icredibly fun to play (and you can do a quick Ricky Ricardo impersonation that chicks really dig.)

Strings are the next set of instruments and are all BASICALLY played in a similar way, either plucking or bowing the strings causing them to vibrate near a resonance chamber issuing a harmonic frequency (ie sound). The basics of these instruments are very simple, but you need to practice a lot to sound passible - String players are made not born (although natural talent makes the construction a whole lot easier). 10 minutes a day for two years isn't going to get you to Carnehgie Hall or that gig replacing Eddie Van Halen. There is an old saying that practice makes perfect, wrong, practice makes better, nobody's perfect. Strings are fun to play however, As a drummer/percustionist I too can "play" guitar (not well but enough to get my point across to real guitarists or other string players in an orchestral setting. I never have, nor will I ever claim to be a string player, but I will admit I have fun while I'm butchering the instrument, a possible drawback, if you value the physical presentation of your hands (ie a hand model, metro-sexual or just plain vain) strings are NOT for you - in order to play you must build up calouses on the fingertips or your fretting hand.

Winds (brass or wood) are all simple to learn, but each one requires several hours of practice in order to just get past the "strangling a duck/goose syndrome". Your physical liabilities will also limit your selection of instrument. Low lung power or poor diaphragm control will mean shorter "blow" times; big lips limit you to basic woodwinds or lower (ie larger) brass instruments, or any wind that you encompass (ie, oboe, sax, recorder, bagpipes - French horn is RIGHT OUT). So if you don't mind the frustration of learning (ie how bad you really sound to start) these are the instruments that are by far the easiest to pick-up and eventually get REALLY good at (in the smallest amount of time - but obviously the more you play the better you get) Of course you can get a harmonica and just go to town, easy to learn and cheap (buy Chapsticktm).

Keyboard instruments (Piano, synt, harpsichord, organ) are all labor intesive instruments. To learn the classical way takes many hours of lessons and many years of study to be good...however, these are probably the easiest instrument to CHEAT on and sound half-way decent. A real player will turn up their nose at you, laugh, point, etc, but most people will think you sound fine and not know the difference. (like science to the primative - ooo magic) There is also a program that is being taught now about the "professional" way to play - ie lounge acts, bars and concerts not involving tuxedos and the word conducted by...
simple chordal patterns with the left hand and soloing with the right (prevelant in rock, jazz, blues, country and basically most POP styles of music) This method is much easier to learn thatn the traditional and will instantly make you a "star" at least at the company holiday party or with the local neighbourhood folks. Play for others is fun, so that may be a route to go.

Of course all this goes back to my first question, why do you want to learn to play? For you, for glory, to pass the time, etc. If you really want to teach yourself, JUST BECAUSE, then go to your local music store, blow off the circling buzzards (I mean salepersons) and walk around until something speaks to you. Hold the instruments in your hands, feel them up, its okay, they like it, feel their weight, their heft, their pulse and how you react. Whichever one your blood screams for, thats the one for you - its primal, yes, but you'll be happy.

Hope this helps! As a professional, I have seen all to often fellow pros bug on amatures to the point of discouraging them. If you want to please you, do what feels right baby! If you want to please a crowd, then self-taught is NOT the way to go (regardless of how many pros get there that way) Take lessons, learn the rules, then go home and break them. Know why what your doing is wrong and still sounds right. I comend you on picking up ANYTHING! Too many people walk through life ignoring the possibility of music because it has "no practicle value", but if I can make just one person happy with my playing, even if its just me, then I say it has more value than all the "real things" in life combined.

Just my two cents. :cool:
 

As a "musician" and son of a music teacher, I'll say that Thunderfoot is pretty accurate in his overall assessments of the various types of instruments, but I'll differ with him in one regard- guitars can be dead easy to "cheat" on.

You can actually learn certain songs in less than a day of (INTENSIVE) practice...not to the same level of proficiency as the original recording artists, but recognizable. Some songs literally have only 3 or 4 chords, and you just have to learn the strumming pattern and the chord progression.

Some things I've learned over the years:

According to my Mom, adults actually pick up instruments easier than children. While kids have the advantage of being in prime condition to learn (a state called "brain plasticity"), they have shorter attention spans and are not physically mature- two advantages in favor of the adults. That, coupled with the impetus of paying for lessons yourself gives you both innate advantages and external pressures to learn.

You want to learn an instrument that fits your sensibilities and physical build. Talent is only part of the equation for any instrument. Lessons DO make a difference. Structured lessons help you minimize the amount of time you spend making mistakes you'll have to unlearn, and you'll be taught excercises that will teach you proper positioning of the instrument & body, fingering, and other secrets of the instrument you choose. I was a whiz at stringed instruments- I played cello for years, and have also picked up guitar and bass guitar. You have to put in the time to learn it or you'll never make any progress. I'd hear a song and pick up its rudiments in minutes...but if I didn't put in the practice time, my performance remained rudimentary. Those that I practiced became more and more nuanced.

Guitars are the most popular instruments in the world, at least in terms of annual sales. They range from inexpensive models ($100 or less) to the price of a nice car. They're portable. They're beautiful. They have a "cool" factor built up over the centuries (especially over the past 20 years). Electrics are the easiest to learn- they have the most slender neck of any of the various kinds, making the fingering much easier. Folk guitars (the kind most people think of) have a slightly wider neck. Classical guitars have the widest necks of all- difficult to finger, but that width is neccessary for certain techniques.

If/when you buy an instrument, remember inexpensive != cheap, and expensive != quality. Do your research to find the one that fits your physical build, your lifestyle, and your budget. Realize that a cheap instrument may be affordable now, but it may not last but a few years, and won't be worth repairing if something goes wrong with it.
 

Thunderfoot said:
Obviously there are no hardcore percussionists on this board becuase to play the triangle or the cymbals CORRECTLY takes months of INTENSE practice. BTW did I mention I'm a percussionist. :)
I guess I'm not a hardcore percussionist... I do fancy myself a percussionist, though.

Good post, though. ;)
 

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