D&D (2024) Its The Same Game Right? 5.0 Options in 5.5

[Zardnaar]

Atm we allow races and 2014 back grounds (pg 38 5.5 phb). Spells that don't exist in 5.5 phb are also fine.

We used Elven accuracy in a level 12 stress test on a champion. Vex/Nick you have
super advantage on every attack if you keep hitting and spend your inspiration via level 10 champion ability. Also has cute interaction with Innate Sorcery and spells like chromatic orb and scorching ray.

How about spells like booming blade and green flame blade? Shadow blade as well.

These are some obvious ones. A few players are picking older races due to lack of weapon and armor proficiencies. 2014 background also gets around the annoying origins system.

Backwards compatible if you squint? Backgrounds are RAW but other stuff is ask your DM I suppose. Thoughts?

 

[Scribe]

Its not the same game, its 5.5.

 

[Reynard]

It's compatible, at least to the point that you can run the existing adventures or use the existing settings with the new rules. That was pretty much their only goal for compatibility. I think we will see all the non core options get revisions, and sooner than later.

 

[mellored]

PHB2
12 new classes with 4 new subclasses each. Can be (and we have) played along side any of the PHB1 classes without any issues.

Not very original new classes. But it's not any more game changing than adding in Artificers or whatever.

 

[TwoSix]

If the players find a wacky interaction, more power to them. As long as they’re having fun, doesn’t bother me at all.

 

[THEMNGMNT]

It's the same game. There's a few corner cases (which players will exploit) but that's true for any game and any edition.

 

[MerricB]

My term for it is "mathematical compatibility". Mechanically, it may or may not work, but the underlying mathematics is pretty consistent.

I've just written an article showing one of the unexpected incompatibilities I've encountered using a 2014 adventure with the 2024 core rulebooks.

There's a couple of interactions that may break more than you expect.

Cheers!

 

[MerricB]

Play a 2014 Sorcerer using Quickened Spell with the 2024 rules.

Cheers!

 

[THEMNGMNT]

My term for it is "mathematical compatibility". Mechanically, it may or may not work, but the underlying mathematics is pretty consistent.

I've just written an article showing one of the unexpected incompatibilities I've encountered using a 2014 adventure with the 2024 core rulebooks.

There's a couple of interactions that may break more than you expect.

Cheers!

Love your blog. But I don't think it's fair to say that 2024 and 2014 are not backwards compatible because of a single encounter in a 3rd party adventure which modifies a creature from the Monster Manual. I'm still open to the possibility that there are bigger issues with compatibility, but this is not a smoking gun.

 

[Reynard]

My term for it is "mathematical compatibility". Mechanically, it may or may not work, but the underlying mathematics is pretty consistent.

I've just written an article showing one of the unexpected incompatibilities I've encountered using a 2014 adventure with the 2024 core rulebooks.

There's a couple of interactions that may break more than you expect.

Cheers!

Nice article. Brief but to the point.