Healing Hands + Devoted Paladin = uber healing?

[Klaus]

Healing Hands lets a paladin add Cha mod. to Lay On Hands healing.

Devoted Paladin (Divine Power) gives a paladin +1 surge and lets him add Cha mod. to Lay On Hands healing.

Do they stack?

 

[keterys]

Yep. And with the 'every milestone gain a LoH' feat at paragon it turns LoH into a pretty solid option. I wouldn't say uber, though

 

[borg286]

Uber healing is a kalashar cleric with Mark of Healing, Healer's Implement, Potent Restorables, Beatific Healer, Healer's brooch, medic's dagger, Mace of Healing, and Gloves of the Healer using astral seal for an at-will heal of godly amounts that doesn't require a healing surge. That's uber healing. When your paladin can heal 20% of someone's health at-will w/o anyone spending a healing surge, then call you've got an uber healer. But him spending a healing surge and adding 2*cha to it is nothing to write home about.

 

[Dr_Sage]

Its ok, but remmember that Healing Hands specifically states "ally", where LoH can be used on self too.

 

[Klaus]

Uber healing is a kalashar cleric with Mark of Healing, Healer's Implement, Potent Restorables, Beatific Healer, Healer's brooch, medic's dagger, Mace of Healing, and Gloves of the Healer using astral seal for an at-will heal of godly amounts that doesn't require a healing surge. That's uber healing. When your paladin can heal 20% of someone's health at-will w/o anyone spending a healing surge, then call you've got an uber healer. But him spending a healing surge and adding 2*cha to it is nothing to write home about.

Yeah, but that's the cleric's point. For a paladin (specially a Chaladin) to heal +10-12 hp on a LoH pretty much doubles the surge value of most non-defenders.

 

[borg286]

Yeah, but that's the cleric's point. For a paladin (specially a Chaladin) to heal +10-12 hp on a LoH pretty much doubles the surge value of most non-defenders.

I'll give you that. For a paladin trying to be a better healer these 2 feats are very efficient.

 

[DracoSuave]

I'll give you that. For a paladin trying to be a better healer these 2 feats are very efficient.

For a paladin trying to be a better defender these two feats are not more efficient.

One, maybe, but there's other feats that help you do your job better.

Also, Hospitaler, yo.

 

[Turtlejay]

Paladins were kind of off-leaders before Divine Power, it looks like their Defendery nature got a nice boost, but so did some of their leadery nature.

Although a friend calls lay on hands 'retroactive defending' to make up for the less efficient defending the paladin heals you damage you may have suffered.

I always just liked lay hands for myself when I played a paladin. Heal your surge value as a minor action? Yes please.

Jay

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

For a paladin trying to be a better defender these two feats are not more efficient.

One, maybe, but there's other feats that help you do your job better.

Also, Hospitaler, yo.

As Turtlejay said - retroactive defense.

"You know, that guy that hit you last round?"
"Yes?"
Lays hands on ally.
"He didn't. He hit me. Now kill him for me."

 

[Destil]

Add Hospitaler for triple Cha at Paragon.

Not sure if I want this for my Kalashatar paladin again or not... I traded Healing Hands for Virtuous Recovery last level under the assumption that it would prevent more damage than this heals most days.