Has everybody stopped watching Smallville? (SPOILERS)

Felon

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Who's dumber, Chloe from Stargate Universe, or Chloe from Smallville? Before you answer, read on.

I remember the days when every episode had its own thread here with plenty of posts. It's funny, I always thought the show was spinning its wheels back then when it was popular. But now folks only mention it to state how unwatchable it is, and so of course I'm watching it faithfully, if only for the occasional cameos by other DC characters.

Anyway, I just finished watching the latest episode, "Sacrifice". Man, the bar for Smallville's writers may not be high, but unless I really missed some major details, this has to be one of the most non-sequitor-packed episodes of any TV series ever. If anyone else watched, see if you can help me out here.

The premise is a well-worn little chestnut where you take two main characters who can't stand each other and trap them together so they're forced to look past their differences and find common ground. They cooperate, seem to gain mutual respect, and then after they're free they more-or-less revert back to the old antagonism. Whether you're a fan of Star Trek or The Jeffersons, you've seen it before.

In this case, the characters are Tess and Chloe. How do the writers decide to trap them together? No, not a defective elevator. They have Tess invade the Watchtower, and after Chloe shows up, the whole place goes into lockdown. It seems that Checkmate is hacking the Watchtower mainframe, and Chloe is shut out by her own security system. So the clock is ticking as Checkmate starts cracking firewall after firewall and the air starts running out.

Now, the first thing that seems improbable is the idea that someone would design a security system for their network that they can't override. No backdoor password, no keypad to open the blast doors. There's a DNA scan to let you in, but nothing to help you get out. But even less sensible than badly designed infrastructure, Chloe can't even stop the Checkmate hack by physically disconnecting her modems or simply powering the whole mainframe off, even though her last-second solution--using the liquid nitrogen cooling system to shatter the steel door--clearly demonstrates she can get inside its guts. Come to think of it, shutting off the cooling system should force a shutdown in and of itself. Instead, it stays on until it all melts over the next couple of minutes.

And beyond all of the techno-stuff, it seems a little harsh for Chloe to design a security system that would suffocate would-be intruders to death if she was too indisposed to let them out in a timely manner. Green Arrow and the other members of the team don't get an IM or anything.

So I ask you. Who's dumber? Chloe from Stargate Universe, who, after seeing a hole cut in the ceiling of a hallway, dumbly walks right under it and is promptly captured by aliens, or Chloe from Smallville, who is trapped and nearly killed by a backdoorless security system of her own design?
 
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I still watch it out of a bad habit, but you are right on that the quality is pretty horrible.

How many motives/secret organizations/sides is Tess on now? Does she subscribe to the Plot of the Week newsletter or something?

The guy who plays Zod is a horrible, scene-chewing mess. I don't want Zod to be an emo, angst-ridden villian. He should be a f&^**(NG bad-arse.

And Clark - it's time to fly. Really. EVERYONE ELSE ON THE SHOW CAN DO IT. Half of the city knows your identity by now, just put on the tights and get it done.

There are gems still. Ollie and Jon Jones are pretty well done. The Checkmate idea has potential, and Waller is well played.

But I can't help watch this and think how much better it could be with the producers and writers from the Justice League/JLU cartoon series.
 

The guy who plays Zod is a horrible, scene-chewing mess.

That made me laugh out loud. Cause it's true. He's so sucky he makes Twilight main characters look brilliant.

He's like a Kryptonian Wily E Coyote with a touch of Victorian twit thrown in for good measure. And he can't decide if he wants to cry, snarl, slobber, or wet his panties. His name shouldn't be Zod, but Zot.
 

The guy who plays Zod is a horrible, scene-chewing mess. I don't want Zod to be an emo, angst-ridden villian. He should be a f&^**(NG bad-arse.
Isn't it funny that the Kandorians are supposed to be grizzled, battle-hardened dogs of war, yet they are a bunch of comely twentysomethings, because those are the only kind of people allowed on the CW? Kryptionian science I guess.

And Clark - it's time to fly. Really. EVERYONE ELSE ON THE SHOW CAN DO IT. Half of the city knows your identity by now, just put on the tights and get it done.

But I can't help watch this and think how much better it could be with the producers and writers from the Justice League/JLU cartoon series.
I'm working from the premise that this Clark is never actually supposed to put on the tights. He just runs around in a duster with the "S" on his chest. In the Legion of Super-Heroes time, they've distorted his legend to what we think of as Superman. That's the only thing I can figure.

As for flying, my guess is they wanted flight to be the final stage of Clark's evolution into a full-fledged hero. But they won't let the series end gracefully, so they keep dragging his development out.

They've painted themselves into some really awful corners. They wanted Clark to be hunky for all their young female audience, so no glasses or nerd act. That means he's got no disguise, which in turn means we're going to keep seeing him show up at the last instant as a blur and then zooming off, rather engaging other characters (villains and otherwise) in an interesting way.
 

Well, the thing about Clark not flying is, believe it or not, makes him closer to the original Superman way back when who could not fly but literally jump tall buildings in a single bound. Flying is actually a radio show invention.

But I pretty much have stopped watching it when I saw the premier of the current season. I hated the camera work and everything was too choppy for me.
 


This most recent episode was pretty crappy, agreed. The one before it, though, was pretty enjoyable. As such, I'm still in there, watching every week. The cameos are almost always fun and the episodes where it actually seems like a comic book -- like week before last -- are a hoot.

This Chloe is just completely inconsistently written. Some weeks she's clever as heck, others she's a complete idiot.
 

Agreed, some of the episodes HAVE been good. The first John Corbin one was solid. The first Checkmate episode was cool and even had some of the better action scenes in the series.

One thing I've always laughed about though, for all the time they spend in the hospital, I've noticed two things:
A) Smallville hospital looks EXACTLY like every Metropolis hospital.

B) These hospitals cannot afford light bulbs in the patient rooms.
 

Well, the thing about Clark not flying is, believe it or not, makes him closer to the original Superman way back when who could not fly but literally jump tall buildings in a single bound. Flying is actually a radio show invention.

Well, yes, but that version of Superman didn't have heat vision or a Fortress of Solitude or half the other stuff. They're clearly not using the 1930s Superman, they're using the modern power set.
 

As a tech guy, I wondered why Chloe didn't pull the power, or some other wires or something. And Temp Deadly forcing power shut off is pretty much a standard built into all modern systems.



Perhaps what the writers need to do is post questions on a smallville forum, and see what tech saavy answer they get back.

For instance:

Situation: Green Arrow is trapped in watchtower. Somebody is hacking in from the outside. What should he do?

Answer: unplug the computer, or make it overheat so it shutsdown.

I started watching it last summer, so I netflixed seasons 1-8, and then started in on the 10 episodes I had saved on my DVR of season 9.

this season is a bit meandery, but there've been several like that. The Teagues and the Witches, for instance. The first coming of Zod.

As for Zod, oddly enough, he's now been describe as Callum Blue's old character Mason, the drug-head reaper from Dead Like me.

Zod seemed more menacing when he was in Lex's body, honestly.
 

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