Glove of Storing

[Lord Pendragon]

From the SRD:

Glove of Storing: This device is a simple leather glove. On command, one item held in the hand wearing the glove disappears. The item can weigh no more than 20 pounds and must be able to be held in one hand. While stored, the item has negligible weight. With a snap of the fingers wearing the glove, the item reappears. A glove can only store one item at a time. Storing or retrieving the item is a free action...

Let's say a fighter has a single Glove of Storing and begins his round with a sword in his (gloved) hand, and an axe stored within the glove. Could he instantly call out the axe while at the same time simultaneously storing the sword?

 

[Brain]

I would say no, because you would have to do one before the other. While the axe is in the glove, you can't store the sword, and while the sword is in your hand there is no room to hold the axe if you retrieved it.

 

[shilsen]

What Brain said.

 

[UltimaGabe]

From the SRD:Let's say a fighter has a single Glove of Storing and begins his round with a sword in his (gloved) hand, and an axe stored within the glove. Could he instantly call out the axe while at the same time simultaneously storing the sword?

no. In Dungeons & Dragons, no two actions can be taken simultaneously (whether they are standard, move, full-round, or free) unless something specifically states that they can. (And I know of none that state so.) So either you make your attack first, then take the Free Action to un-store the axe, or you un-store it and then attack. This also applies to cases where someone might try to punch an NPC, and un-store a dagger in the middle of their attack to take their target by surprise- it doesn't work, because no two actions can be taken simultaneously.

 

[Lord Pendragon]

no. In Dungeons & Dragons, no two actions can be taken simultaneously (whether they are standard, move, full-round, or free) unless something specifically states that they can. (And I know of none that state so.) So either you make your attack first, then take the Free Action to un-store the axe, or you un-store it and then attack. This also applies to cases where someone might try to punch an NPC, and un-store a dagger in the middle of their attack to take their target by surprise- it doesn't work, because no two actions can be taken simultaneously.

Note that I made no mention of attacking with the sword. Not that it changes your core point--that you can't take two actions at once--but I think it's important not to cloud the issue with extras. No attack is involved. Say the fighter's standing in an open field. He has a sword in his hand, and would rather have the axe in his hand instead.

For those who answer 'no', does it change things if his other hand is free? Could he pass the sword to his free hand, recall the axe, switch the weapons around, store the sword, then pass the axe back to his primary hand, all as free actions?

 

[Sammael]

By a recent Sage Advice ruling, passing an object from one hand to another is a move action.

 

[azmodean]

[pedantry]You can draw a weapon while moving, but as was said, it is a clearly stated exception.[/pedantry]

 

[RuminDange]

By a recent Sage Advice ruling, passing an object from one hand to another is a move action.

Strange ruling in my opinion. I might could see if you were juggling items or something, but that just to move one object from one hand to another. Can't agree with that ruling like a few such before hand. Swapping would be more of a quick action or even free.

Besides, doesn't that make it impossible for a spellcasting such as a cleric to move thier weapon to their sheild hand so that they can have a free hand to cast and still move in the same round?

RD

 

[Sammael]

Besides, doesn't that make it impossible for a spellcasting such as a cleric to move thier weapon to their sheild hand so that they can have a free hand to cast and still move in the same round?

Yes, and I think that's sort of the reason for the ruling, since it appears to be a bit too much.

IMC, it's a swift action.

 

[Mouseferatu]

I'm going to go against the grain and say yes, you can do it.

Here's the thing. It's entirely true that you can't officially take two actions at once (though one could argue that certain free actions, like speaking, violate that rule). But you can do two free action in rapid, nigh-instantaneous succession.

It is awkward to hold two weapons in one hand, and you could never wield them like that, but it's possible to do so long enough to, say, carry them across a room. So, one free action to call forth the axe, and a second to store the sword. I suppose one could argue that it should require a move action to perform the switch, what with readjusting your grip and all that, but that would entirely be a personal call.

Obviously, there are certain items this won't work with, such as a large globe, but it works with axe and sword.

(As a side note, IMC, I allow items to be "switched," as described above, as a single free action, rather than a combination of actions that may or may not work. The glove's pretty expensive as it is, so it's a nice benefit to add. I acknowledge that as a house rule, however, or at least a very liberal interpretation.)