Gaming Room Setup Help

lostingeneral

First Post
Okay, so as first posts go, I know this is not exactly a dazzling one. Still.

I'm pretty new to this whole thing. A few months ago, my players and I transitioned from simple(r) boardgames to 4e. I have assumed the role of DM.

With the boardgames, we would just play wherever there was space. Usually this amounted to people's houses, where seating and setups varied (we played often on the floor, on coffee tables, etc). But the current situation is, obviously, a bit different, and everything must be centered at my place.

We have until this point been playing at the dining room table, but this is an issue for many reasons. It's uncomfortable, there's not much space (two sides have virtually none and players are constantly struggling to get in and out) and there is mutual disturbance with other people living in the house. I have a lot of space in my basement, which is where I want to move the game.

The basement space is large and mostly clear. There are shelves at the far end (where I intend to put the DM space) as well as a wall-mounted LCD monitor behind the DM spot with a laptop hookup that will serve to post initiative, display pictures, that sort of thing. I've got a space for the campaign map, a little fridge, and a huge counter-like thing for holding my many miniatures. There's other miscellanea around too, that I hope should contribute to the efficacy of the setup.

The problem is what should ultimately have been the most basic consideration: seating. Around the edges of this room are two couches and two easy chairs, which I was initially planning to put players in. They're still quite nice and I have nowhere else to put them, so they have to stay in this room. I was going to put a table of some sort in front of them, but now I have some concerns. So...

Seating:

Couches have received a pretty bad rap, it seems, for causing players to become just a bit too comfortable and ultimately wind up distracted. A big part of my weekly game is just socializing already; I have a lot of players (8, plus myself) so side-conversations and some distractions are inevitable, which I think is fine, but I do like to have some strong direction in the game. This hasn't been a problem yet, and players can usually stay fairly well in the game without much difficulty, and still chat amongst themselves. I like some good role-playing, but I don't mind OOC conversations during downtime, as long as they don't get out of hand.

I have to use the couches in the immediate future, but should I ultimately try to transition to office chairs (or something similar)? Or should I just stick to the couches? Has anybody had any good experiences using them to play on or just bad ones?

And tables:

I absolutely need a table. We make extensive use of terrain and maps (I use a combination of Hirst Arts and Worldworks stuff) with miniatures to represent battle scenes, and honestly I doubt we could play 4e without it. So there needs to be some kind of surface.

First of all, playing on the floor is out. I've tried that with the boardgames many times, and even that is an issue; playing on couches, I have found, is far less distracting than trying to play on the floor. You have to sit on the floor just to get a good position on it, which is really uncomfortable, and even then stuff still has a tendency to get knocked around. I have access to a small coffee table, which I have considered mounting a 6'x4' piece of plywood on. This would be just above knee height for players on the couches, and is a larger playing space than we have been using.

Also, I have an old ping-pong table in my garage which is 9'x5', but is the same height as the dining room table and so comes up a little high on the couches. However, it provides even more room, and I have thought that maybe the extra height could keep the players upright and more focused. Which would be better in this situation?

And finally, I would greatly welcome any suggestions (within reason, particularly with regards to budget) on how to improve the room in other ways, or ideas on how everyone's setup works.

I realize that this is a bit rambling, but I greatly appreciate the help of anybody who has a little more experience with this sort of thing than I do. Thanks in advance!
 
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A dedicated gaming space is a thing of beauty, and you have the beginnings of an awesome set-up, especially with that DM's shelf & monitor.

My experience with couches has been less of a socializing issue and more that they tend to lull folks (myself included) toward sleep after a while. It seems that you have a lively group, so your mileage may vary.

The coffee table sounds like the best fit for the couches -- but ultimately I'd shoot for office chairs/folding chairs and the ping-pong table as your ideal set-up.
 

Sounds like you're already well on your way. Here's a couple of threads, with pictures, you might be interested in:

http://www.enworld.org/forum/general-rpg-discussion/300472-lets-see-your-game-room.html
http://www.enworld.org/forum/general-rpg-discussion/283229-looking-best-game-rooms-ideas.html
http://www.enworld.org/forum/general-rpg-discussion/633-best-gaming-room-game-table-setups.html

I have to use the couches in the immediate future, but should I ultimately try to transition to office chairs (or something similar)? Or should I just stick to the couches? Has anybody had any good experiences using them to play on or just bad ones?
In my experience that is entirely player specific. Some like chairs, some prefer couches.
 
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Firstly, I would suggest that couches are fine for now.

As for a surface, if you have all the bells and whistles you suggested, I would also go with the ping-pong table. Encourage players to bring their own portable seating if they have and prefer it.

As time goes by, and finances allow, by all means pimp your game room. But, ultimately, the fun is the thing.
 

A dedicated gaming space is a thing of beauty, and you have the beginnings of an awesome set-up, especially with that DM's shelf & monitor.

My experience with couches has been less of a socializing issue and more that they tend to lull folks (myself included) toward sleep after a while. It seems that you have a lively group, so your mileage may vary.

The coffee table sounds like the best fit for the couches -- but ultimately I'd shoot for office chairs/folding chairs and the ping-pong table as your ideal set-up.

Hmm. I hadn't considered that, but I think that's also a concern to a lesser extent. My group is pretty active, but we have had one guy just doze off once.


Sounds like you're already well on your way. Here's a couple of threads, with pictures, you might be interested in:

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In my experience that is entirely player specific. Some like chairs, some prefer couches.

I had actually read through two of those threads before posting this, and it gave me a lot of info. My players have spoken in favour of couches, though we've never actually played 4e (or any RPG for that matter) on them, so I'll probably have to wait and see what happens in an actual game.


Firstly, I would suggest that couches are fine for now.

As for a surface, if you have all the bells and whistles you suggested, I would also go with the ping-pong table. Encourage players to bring their own portable seating if they have and prefer it.

As time goes by, and finances allow, by all means pimp your game room. But, ultimately, the fun is the thing.

I agree, though I worry that the ping-pong table might be a little high. The surface is about 2 1/2 feet off of the floor, and sitting on couches (which are high by couch standards, but still much lower than "proper" chairs) might be a touch isolating. I'll try it myself perhaps, but it's kind of a pain to move that thing up and down stairs. :eek: Oh well.

I am on the lookout for office-style chairs - I've found a local store that sells some nice, fairly comfortable ones for $50/chair, which is as cheap as I've found for new ones, and an office about a five minute walk from my house that's giving away some of their old chairs for free - but it's mostly the difficulty in getting rid of the couches that's impeding that eventual changeover.
 

Kudos on a dedicated gaming area, wish I had one that was in the house. One thing to think about is food and a food table away from the main gaming table. We have a area for food that may make a mess, like cake, pie, not too many people bring fast food anymore. It does a good job of containing crumbs and such. Less cleaning for you later with trash and vaccuuming.

If able allow others to provide things they can leave, like chairs and end tables. Someone will come up with something useful, like a few school lockers would be great for player items.
 

We play on couches and living room chairs. Some use the coffee table and some use portable TV tray type tables. It works well enough.

With the situation you describe I wouldn't hesitate to use the couches you have, then go with the coffee table with a 4x6 sheet of plywood to make it a little larger. We did this setup once on an all day session at our normal place of play and it worked well. Lots of room. I don't think you will be happy with a ping pong table and couches due to as you have already said - it is simply too high and awkward.
 


Minimum setup:
2 folding tables (preferably from the same manufacturer)
* 6 foot
* 4 foot
Folding chairs to match group size.

Match ends so it looks like:
XX
XX
X <-- DM goes here

Having the 6ft table extend past the 4ft table leaves the DM a place to setup to his side while the rest of combined tables holds your paizo / chessex / other battlemats.
 

Kudos on a dedicated gaming area, wish I had one that was in the house. One thing to think about is food and a food table away from the main gaming table. We have a area for food that may make a mess, like cake, pie, not too many people bring fast food anymore. It does a good job of containing crumbs and such. Less cleaning for you later with trash and vaccuuming.

If able allow others to provide things they can leave, like chairs and end tables. Someone will come up with something useful, like a few school lockers would be great for player items.

Good idea about a separate food table; I think I might use the dining room table (located upstairs - the "old table") for exactly that purpose. I also like the idea of people bringing things if they want, as that could help relieve the cost of chairs, in the future. Hopefully, anyway.

We play on couches and living room chairs. Some use the coffee table and some use portable TV tray type tables. It works well enough.

Interesting. And you don't find that this kind of thing impacts the experience at all? At the moment it's my top concern that somehow this will hurt the game more than help it.

We play on this:

[...]

While that is a killer setup I can't afford that kind of thing right now. We do have a craftsman, an artist, and a mechanical design specialist in the group though... so this could be a reality in the future. Something to think about.

Minimum setup:
2 folding tables (preferably from the same manufacturer)
* 6 foot
* 4 foot
Folding chairs to match group size.

Match ends so it looks like:
XX
XX
X <-- DM goes here

Having the 6ft table extend past the 4ft table leaves the DM a place to setup to his side while the rest of combined tables holds your paizo / chessex / other battlemats.

I think I see. For us, the folding chairs share the same problem as the office chairs unfortunately (and have the added non-bonus of being far less comfortable) in that the couches obstruct the space they would take up. I'll have to consider that as a cost-effective alternative to the office chairs later on, though.

But I do like the thought of separate tables, I think. I was a bit worried that the coffee table might be too low to set my laptop, screen, etc. on top of, but I wonder if I couldn't use a TV table or something like that on my end to sort of supplement the coffee table.
 

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