Forked Thread: Squeezing past enemies?

[Noumenon]

Forked from: Huge Fire Elemental CR7?

Well don't forget the squeezing rules "A creature can squeeze past an opponent while moving but it can’t end its movement in an occupied square." and that the elemental has a jump bonus of +16 just from speed and STR.

I thought squeezing was for fitting into narrow spaces. Are you telling me instead of tumbling past an opponent blocking a corridor I can just take -4 to AC and squeeze by?

 

[Legildur]

It depends. If take the following example where a 10ft wide corridor is occupied by a medium creature, this would usually be sufficient to block movement for a size large or larger creature. However, the siaze large creature could elect to squeeze through the remaining 5ft wide gap not occupied by the medium-sized creature.

From the SRD: "You can squeeze through or into a space that is at least half as wide as your normal space."

By doing so, however, each space moved when squeezed counts as double, and there is a -4 penalty to attack rolls and to armor class.

So, assuming there is sufficient movement in this example, it can be done, and would probably generate an AOO for the movement.

Other (mundane) options are to move through the space (assuming the creature is 3 sizes large than the opponent or larger), overrun, tumble through the square (base DC 25 tumble check to succeed), or jump over the creature.

 

[Noumenon]

Oh, I see. I had read "you may squeeze past an opponent" to mean "you can squeeze through an opponent's square." ("'Scuse me! Coming through!") But it really means "you may squeeze through the spaces between opponents."

 

[blargney the second]

There's also the often-neglected overrun option.

 

[Legildur]

There's also the often-neglected overrun option.

LOL! So right! I thought of Bull Rush, but not Overrun!!