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<blockquote data-quote="JEB" data-source="post: 9279637" data-attributes="member: 10148"><p>Moving on to 2e! Source breakdowns for the 2e Monstrous Compendium (Vol. 1 and 2)...</p><p></p><p>469 core monsters in the list.</p><p></p><p>284/469 from the 1e Monster Manual, of which:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">77 were from the original boxed set [every one that had also appeared in the 1e MM]</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">38 were from Greyhawk</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">33 were from Blackmoor</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">4 were from Eldritch Wizardry</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">4 were from Gods, Demi-Gods & Heroes [every one from 1e MM]</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">12 from The Strategic Review</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">3 from 0e-era Dragon Magazine [every one from 1e MM]</li> </ul><p></p><p>30/469 from the 1e Fiend Folio</p><p>96/469 from 1e Monster Manual II</p><p>2/469 that had previously appeared in 1e-era Dragon Magazine [fox, killer whale]</p><p>2/469 that had previously appeared in the 1981 Basic Set [NPC party ("adventurer"), noble ("gentry")]</p><p>2/469 that had previously appeared in the 1981 Expert Set [magic-user ("wizard"), cleric ("priest")]</p><p>2/469 that had previously appeared in the Basic D&D Creature Catalogue [piranha, giant piranha; though the (normal) piranha had also appeared in 1e Dragon]</p><p>1/469 from The Mines of Bloodstone [steeder]</p><p>1/469 from Moonshae [leviathan]</p><p></p><p>49/469 newly core monsters</p><p></p><p>While 0e to 1e only cut a few generic monster templates, 1e to 2e actually dropped a number of specific creatures:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">From Greyhawk, 3 cuts: Tyrannosaurus(!), giant tick, titan.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">From Blackmoor, 8 cuts: Giant beaver, elasmosaurus, mosasaurus, plesiosaurus, aquatic elf, floating eye, masher, giant portuguese man-o-war.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">From Eldritch Wizardry, 15 cuts: Brain mole, cerebral parasite, Demogorgon and Orcus, demons types I-VI, intellect devourer, shedu, su-monster, succubus, thought eater. In short, all the demons (because "satanic") and nearly all the psionic monsters.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">From The Strategic Review, 1 cut: Wind walker.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">From the 1e Monster Manual itself: A whopping 64 cuts, including the rest of the demons; all the devils; the rest of the dinosaurs, as well as other prehistoric animals; Tiamat and Bahamut; ear seekers; larvae; night hags; nightmares; perytons; sprites; and several normal and giant animals.</li> </ul><p></p><p>Many of these cuts were restored in later MC Appendices. For example, dinosaurs returned in MC Vol. 3, the first Forgotten Realms Appendix (which was kind of "semi-core"), while the fiends made a comeback in MC Vol. 8, the Outer Planes Appendix (another arguably "semi-core").</p><p></p><p>EDIT: Miscounted by 1 (469, not 470).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JEB, post: 9279637, member: 10148"] Moving on to 2e! Source breakdowns for the 2e Monstrous Compendium (Vol. 1 and 2)... 469 core monsters in the list. 284/469 from the 1e Monster Manual, of which: [LIST] [*]77 were from the original boxed set [every one that had also appeared in the 1e MM] [*]38 were from Greyhawk [*]33 were from Blackmoor [*]4 were from Eldritch Wizardry [*]4 were from Gods, Demi-Gods & Heroes [every one from 1e MM] [*]12 from The Strategic Review [*]3 from 0e-era Dragon Magazine [every one from 1e MM] [/LIST] 30/469 from the 1e Fiend Folio 96/469 from 1e Monster Manual II 2/469 that had previously appeared in 1e-era Dragon Magazine [fox, killer whale] 2/469 that had previously appeared in the 1981 Basic Set [NPC party ("adventurer"), noble ("gentry")] 2/469 that had previously appeared in the 1981 Expert Set [magic-user ("wizard"), cleric ("priest")] 2/469 that had previously appeared in the Basic D&D Creature Catalogue [piranha, giant piranha; though the (normal) piranha had also appeared in 1e Dragon] 1/469 from The Mines of Bloodstone [steeder] 1/469 from Moonshae [leviathan] 49/469 newly core monsters While 0e to 1e only cut a few generic monster templates, 1e to 2e actually dropped a number of specific creatures: [LIST] [*]From Greyhawk, 3 cuts: Tyrannosaurus(!), giant tick, titan. [*]From Blackmoor, 8 cuts: Giant beaver, elasmosaurus, mosasaurus, plesiosaurus, aquatic elf, floating eye, masher, giant portuguese man-o-war. [*]From Eldritch Wizardry, 15 cuts: Brain mole, cerebral parasite, Demogorgon and Orcus, demons types I-VI, intellect devourer, shedu, su-monster, succubus, thought eater. In short, all the demons (because "satanic") and nearly all the psionic monsters. [*]From The Strategic Review, 1 cut: Wind walker. [*]From the 1e Monster Manual itself: A whopping 64 cuts, including the rest of the demons; all the devils; the rest of the dinosaurs, as well as other prehistoric animals; Tiamat and Bahamut; ear seekers; larvae; night hags; nightmares; perytons; sprites; and several normal and giant animals. [/LIST] Many of these cuts were restored in later MC Appendices. For example, dinosaurs returned in MC Vol. 3, the first Forgotten Realms Appendix (which was kind of "semi-core"), while the fiends made a comeback in MC Vol. 8, the Outer Planes Appendix (another arguably "semi-core"). EDIT: Miscounted by 1 (469, not 470). [/QUOTE]
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