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<blockquote data-quote="green slime" data-source="post: 6603" data-attributes="member: 1325"><p>This is mainly posted in a feeble attempt to get somethings straight in my head before the PCs leap off into the void, leaving me with the ruins off a smoking argument...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>and</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This implies that <em>Blinking</em> and being ethereal is an incorporeal effect, and yet being ethereal is not the same as being incorporeal. While on the Ethereal Plane, you are invisible to ordinary vision, whereas Incorporeal creatures may be seen on the Material Plane... Certain undead spring to mind. Is Etherealness some sort of Improved Incorporeality?</p><p></p><p>So this implies that being incorporeal is some sort of half-way house towards the Ethereal.</p><p></p><p>It becomes rather wierd when trying to adjucate certain combinations of effects.</p><p></p><p>The Ghost touch weapon makes no mention of damaging creatures on the Ethereal Plane, only Incorporeal. But with <em>true seeing</em> they are visible.</p><p></p><p>BTW: Isn't the blinking-falling rule rather strange? Shouldn't it be 50% chance to take the damage, as the character may be ethereal at the time of impact?</p><p></p><p>Another Side note, Does Turning extend into the Ethereal? I would assume as Ethereal creatures can "see" into the Material, that it would, provided that the cleric knew (through <em>True Seeing</em> or some such) that the undead was there.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="green slime, post: 6603, member: 1325"] This is mainly posted in a feeble attempt to get somethings straight in my head before the PCs leap off into the void, leaving me with the ruins off a smoking argument... and This implies that [i]Blinking[/i] and being ethereal is an incorporeal effect, and yet being ethereal is not the same as being incorporeal. While on the Ethereal Plane, you are invisible to ordinary vision, whereas Incorporeal creatures may be seen on the Material Plane... Certain undead spring to mind. Is Etherealness some sort of Improved Incorporeality? So this implies that being incorporeal is some sort of half-way house towards the Ethereal. It becomes rather wierd when trying to adjucate certain combinations of effects. The Ghost touch weapon makes no mention of damaging creatures on the Ethereal Plane, only Incorporeal. But with [i]true seeing[/i] they are visible. BTW: Isn't the blinking-falling rule rather strange? Shouldn't it be 50% chance to take the damage, as the character may be ethereal at the time of impact? Another Side note, Does Turning extend into the Ethereal? I would assume as Ethereal creatures can "see" into the Material, that it would, provided that the cleric knew (through [i]True Seeing[/i] or some such) that the undead was there. [/QUOTE]
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