elf rouge

[jokker1978]

I havent played D&D in about 20 years are so way back in the day i played a elf Theif . now i want to role a elf rogue . They took out all the cool feats that i remember like two weapon fighting . anyone have any ideas on a a rouge build ?


thanks

 

[Markn]

Haven't seen any red elves or red builds in any editions so far.

Sorry, couldn't help myself.

When it comes to 4e and builds, don't bother trying to do what you did with a race/class from 20 years ago. Design is much different now and trying to compare the two is like comparing apples and oranges.

Edit: Oh and welcome to the boards!

 

[Obryn]

Man, I was a half hour late for an "in before the inevitable red and/or makeup joke due to misspelling of 'rogue'."

-O

 

[Engilbrand]

Figure out what it is that you actually want to do, then build him around that. Don't decide that you want to be a Rogue, and that's it. Do you want to be good with two weapons and lightly armored? Then you want to be a Ranger who specializes in two weapon fighting. Or maybe a Fighter who does the same. It all comes down to what you want to do.

 

[jokker1978]

A ranger would be a cool idea to play with . but i like being the little sneaky guy that stabs you in the back or takes your belt purse when your not looking. plus if i was a ranger the pet is super cool too , as far as the rogue the two weapon fighting is just + 1 to damage ? how do you get max damage out of a rogue ?

 

[Storminator]

Elves are awesome rogues.

They get a bonus to Dex, which is the most important stat for rogues. They are fast, which is good for moving around and getting CA. They get to shift in difficult terrain, which is awesome. They get to reroll a missed attack once per encounter, which is awesome.

Rogue weapon proficiency is pretty weak, but you can spend a feat and get a good weapon (rapier, IMO). WIth TWF and TWD you get a bonus to damage and a bonus to defense. If you use a rapier and a dagger you can use the rapier when you use a 2[W] or 3[W] attack for the bigger dice, and use the dagger for the extra +1 to hit when you really need it.

And if you're a rogue, you don't have to do anything fancy to deal out LOTS of damage. Make sure you're flanking, and the damage comes in buckets - no extra tricks required.

PS

 

[jokker1978]

im still new to theses rules i havent played in for ever how does flanking make you do more damage ?

 

[Engilbrand]

4e has a lot of new rules. I mentioned being a Ranger because they are lightly armored and good with two weapons. You do not need to have a pet. In fact, you would not choose the pet option if you wanted to be good with two weapons.
If you want to be sneaky and able to steal stuff, you just need to take those skills. You want to stab someone? Hunter's Quarry is a Ranger ability that you could pretend was Sneak Attack. It gives you extra damage. You could even take the Rogue multiclass feats for some Rogue abilities.
It sounds like everything that you want to do is done just as well or better by using a Ranger.

Flanking gives you Combat Advantage. Rogues need Combat Advantage to be able to Sneak Attack.

 

[jokker1978]

so if i have CA from flanking ? can i make a sneak attack ? are do i have to make a stealth check ?

How does it all work ? please help !!!

 

[Nebten]

so if i have CA from flanking ? can i make a sneak attack ? are do i have to make a stealth check ?

How does it all work ? please help !!!

If you read the Player's Handbook, the answers will come.