Pathfinder 1E Eidolons and Cure Spells?

Tuft

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I've seen a bunch of texts out on the Interwebtubes claiming that cure spells do not work on Eidolons. Reading the SRD, me and my GM can only find that natural healing, i.e, the one you get with a good nights sleep, does not work.

So, where do people get this restriction from?

I'm mostly just curious, as I'm not the one playing the summoner... ;)
 

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Here's an interesting link that doesn't really help :Phttp://paizo.com/threads/rzs2lfjj?Healing-the-Eidolon

But also look at the Cure spells from Pathfinder. (Target: Creature Touched) "When Laying your hand upon a 'living creature'..."

Also if you look at the Outsider traits: Unlike most living creatures, an outsider does not have a dual nature—its soul and body form one unit. When an outsider is slain, no soul is set loose. Spells that restore souls to their bodies, such as raise dead, reincarnate, and resurrection, don't work on an outsider. It takes a different magical effect, such as limited wish, wish, miracle, or true resurrection to restore it to life. An outsider with the native subtype can be raised, reincarnated, or resurrected just as other living creatures can be

That being said, it seems that many misinterpret them not being able to be resurrected with being healed. To me I see nothing that prevents an Eidolon from being healed by the Cure Spells.
 

Consider this. The link between an eidolon and summoner means that an eidolon can touch those protected by spells such as Protection from Evil/Law/etc. Also, when an eidolon is knocked to negative hit points it doesn't automatically vanish back to it's other-dimensional home, it stays until it reach its negative CON. Also, a summoner can give his hit points to him eidolon under certain conditions and vice versa.

This would seem to indicate to me that eidolons are very similar to your regular party members who benefit from Cure wound spells. The Rejuvenate Eidolon spells seem to be some variant that summons other-dimensional energy from the eidolon's home realm, or perhaps something even more esoteric and heals the eidolon. In the case of my summoner, I could say I'm pulling more life from the slumbering primordial being that my eidolon is a mere shard of, but nobody really cares where it comes from in my game.

Also, I know I've been frustrated in combat when we are doing damage to a demon and then it pulls out a potion, drinks it, and gets healed. Not only is it using our soon to be treasure, we have to do all that damage again.
 

Outsiders are living creatures, they just function differently once they're dead (not living anymore). Everything that has a Con score is a living creature.

PF SRD said:
Unlike most living creatures, an outsider does not have a dual nature—its soul and body form one unit.

Important part bolded. This obviously implies that Outsiders are living creatures, too.

The "living creature" bit in the Cure spell description refers to Undead and Constructs, as well as everything that isn't a "creature" in the game term sense (such as an inanimate object, or, ironically enough, a tree).
 

As the GM in TUft's game, these are the rulings I made on summoners. These answers are [intended to be] my interpretation of the rules, not rules changes.
* An eidolon cannot heal naturally, but it can be healed by all normal supernatural means.
* Eidolons do not begin with traits, but can purchase them using the [http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/additional-traits Additional Traits] feat.
* An eidolon is not a player character, and does not gain maximum hit points on its first hit die.
* A creature summoned by the Summon Monster ability (not spell) appears immediately and can act in the turn it appears.
* A creature summoned by a ''summon monster'' spell (as opposed to the class ability) uses all the normal rules of the spell, and can be present at the same time as the eidolon or a creature summoned using the class ability.
* Feats that improve or change the abilities or numbers of summoned creatures (like Augment Summoning and Superior Summoning) works for the summon monster ability, but never work with the eidolon, even when it is summoned using the ''summon eidolon'' spell.
 

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