D&D General Dual Wielder, Two-weapon Fighting, Nick
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mellored
Legend
No. You need 2 light weapons.
Light Weapon property (formerly two weapon fighting) requires a bonus action, no mod to damage. Anyone can do it.
Nick removes the bonus action. It's now part of your Attack Action (important for some feature, including drawing a weapon). Still no mod.
Dual Wielder adds a different bonus action attack, no mod. Pretty useless without Nick.
Two Weapon Fighting Style adds your mod to both Nick and Dual Wielder. Potentially other things, but I can't think of any.
If you have all of them, and multi attack. Then you can.
Action; 2 attacks with your main hand
+1 Nick with your off hand
Bonus action: 1 dual wielder attack with your off hand
= 4 attacks.
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Cap'n Kobold
Hero
As best as I can parse it, it is the interaction between the Light weapon property, the Nick Weapon Mastery, and the Dual Wielder feat:
Assume you are fighting with a dagger and shortsword, and take the attack action to make an attack with the dagger.
Light(1) property allows you to make an extra attack with the shortsword as a bonus action.
So Dagger, then Shortsword.
Nick (2) turns that shortsword attack (from the Light property) into part of the same attack action as the dagger attack.
So Dagger, then Shortsword.
Dual Wielder(3) allows you to make an extra attack with one of your weapons as a bonus action. (We'll assume shortsword, though it could be either.)
So Dagger, then shortsword, then shortsword.
Crucially, while Dual Wielder requires the Light property to grant its extra attack, this extra attack is from the Dual Wielder feat, not the Light property, allowing both to be used for two additional attacks.
Without Nick however, both of these extra attacks would take your bonus action, so you could only make one.
Dual wielder also allows your bonus action attack to be with a non-Light weapon. However the extra attack due to the Light property requires the other weapon be Light. (I'm not entertaining weapon-swapping shenanigans for this.)
This is RAW to the best of my understanding, and I believe it is also RAI from comments made by Jeremy Crawford when he was cornered and asked by a youtube creator.
(1) When you take the Attack action on your turn and attack with a Light weapon, you can make one extra attack as a Bonus Action later on the same turn. That extra attack must be made with a different Light weapon, and you don’t add your ability modifier to the extra attack’s damage unless that modifier is negative. For example, you can attack with a Shortsword in one hand and a Dagger in the other using the Attack action and a Bonus Action, but you don’t add your Strength or Dexterity modifier to the damage roll of the Bonus Action unless that modifier is negative.
(2) When you make the extra attack of the Light property, you can make it as part of the Attack action instead of as a Bonus Action. You can make this extra attack only once per turn.
(3) When you take the Attack action on your turn and attack with a weapon that has the Light property, you can make one extra attack as a Bonus Action later on the same turn with a different weapon, which must be a Melee weapon that lacks the Two-Handed property. You don’t add your ability modifier to the extra attack’s damage unless that modifier is negative.
Assume you are fighting with a dagger and shortsword, and take the attack action to make an attack with the dagger.
Light(1) property allows you to make an extra attack with the shortsword as a bonus action.
So Dagger, then Shortsword.
Nick (2) turns that shortsword attack (from the Light property) into part of the same attack action as the dagger attack.
So Dagger, then Shortsword.
Dual Wielder(3) allows you to make an extra attack with one of your weapons as a bonus action. (We'll assume shortsword, though it could be either.)
So Dagger, then shortsword, then shortsword.
Crucially, while Dual Wielder requires the Light property to grant its extra attack, this extra attack is from the Dual Wielder feat, not the Light property, allowing both to be used for two additional attacks.
Without Nick however, both of these extra attacks would take your bonus action, so you could only make one.
Dual wielder also allows your bonus action attack to be with a non-Light weapon. However the extra attack due to the Light property requires the other weapon be Light. (I'm not entertaining weapon-swapping shenanigans for this.)
This is RAW to the best of my understanding, and I believe it is also RAI from comments made by Jeremy Crawford when he was cornered and asked by a youtube creator.
(1) When you take the Attack action on your turn and attack with a Light weapon, you can make one extra attack as a Bonus Action later on the same turn. That extra attack must be made with a different Light weapon, and you don’t add your ability modifier to the extra attack’s damage unless that modifier is negative. For example, you can attack with a Shortsword in one hand and a Dagger in the other using the Attack action and a Bonus Action, but you don’t add your Strength or Dexterity modifier to the damage roll of the Bonus Action unless that modifier is negative.
(2) When you make the extra attack of the Light property, you can make it as part of the Attack action instead of as a Bonus Action. You can make this extra attack only once per turn.
(3) When you take the Attack action on your turn and attack with a weapon that has the Light property, you can make one extra attack as a Bonus Action later on the same turn with a different weapon, which must be a Melee weapon that lacks the Two-Handed property. You don’t add your ability modifier to the extra attack’s damage unless that modifier is negative.
Zardnaar
Legend
Level 5-10 yes
Horwath
Legend
I hate how clunky Dual wielder and TWF are written in 5.24 and how bad TWF is for fighters.
So I redid a little those rules.
Light weapon, when you attack with a Light weapon with your Attack action you can attack with another Light weapon as Bonus action. You can make this extra attack once per ATTACK ACTION. This is for action surge.
Nick mastery:
your additional attack from Light property is made as part of that Attack action not as Bonus action. You can make this attack once per Attack action
Dual wielder:
+1 str, dex or con
+1 AC
you can trigger Light weapon bonus attack with any onehanded weapon.
when you attack with a light weapon as part of your Attack action, you can make additional attack with one weapon that lacks 2Handed property as a Bonus action. If that attack has Nick mastery you can make this attack as part of Attack action. You can make this additional attack once per Attack action. This attack does not add ability modifier to damage unless you have TWF style.
So I redid a little those rules.
Light weapon, when you attack with a Light weapon with your Attack action you can attack with another Light weapon as Bonus action. You can make this extra attack once per ATTACK ACTION. This is for action surge.
Nick mastery:
your additional attack from Light property is made as part of that Attack action not as Bonus action. You can make this attack once per Attack action
Dual wielder:
+1 str, dex or con
+1 AC
you can trigger Light weapon bonus attack with any onehanded weapon.
when you attack with a light weapon as part of your Attack action, you can make additional attack with one weapon that lacks 2Handed property as a Bonus action. If that attack has Nick mastery you can make this attack as part of Attack action. You can make this additional attack once per Attack action. This attack does not add ability modifier to damage unless you have TWF style.
@Cap'n Kobold has most of how I interpret the rules so I think that's good to go. Although there was another scenario with the dual-wielding that they didn't mention that at least from how I am interpreting the rules seems like it could also apply:
Taking the Attack action with a Light weapon in one hand lets you make an extra weapon attack with a Light weapon in the other hand as a Bonus action. The Dual-Wielder feat says you can make an extra weapon attack with the other hand as a Bonus action and the weapon just can't have the Two-Handed property.
Which to me means that if you just take the two attacks (one with the Attack action, the other with a Bonus action-- and not take a third attack as Cap'n Kobold mentioned)... one can be a normal-sized weapon and the other is a Light. So you could do Longsword / Shortsword for example with your Bonus action / Attack action. And if the Light weapon you take the Attack action with has the Nick property (say the Scimitar), then your extra second weapon attack made as part of the Attack action (through Nick) can also be with a non-Light weapon. The Nick property just says that the Attack action weapon must be Light to get the second attack as part of the Attack Action and not a Bonus action... which to mean says it can work alongside the Dual-Wielder feat. So you could do Flail / Scimitar for example both using just your Attack action.
Taking the Attack action with a Light weapon in one hand lets you make an extra weapon attack with a Light weapon in the other hand as a Bonus action. The Dual-Wielder feat says you can make an extra weapon attack with the other hand as a Bonus action and the weapon just can't have the Two-Handed property.
Which to me means that if you just take the two attacks (one with the Attack action, the other with a Bonus action-- and not take a third attack as Cap'n Kobold mentioned)... one can be a normal-sized weapon and the other is a Light. So you could do Longsword / Shortsword for example with your Bonus action / Attack action. And if the Light weapon you take the Attack action with has the Nick property (say the Scimitar), then your extra second weapon attack made as part of the Attack action (through Nick) can also be with a non-Light weapon. The Nick property just says that the Attack action weapon must be Light to get the second attack as part of the Attack Action and not a Bonus action... which to mean says it can work alongside the Dual-Wielder feat. So you could do Flail / Scimitar for example both using just your Attack action.
CM
Adventurer
I believe the RAW has been covered. I hate that 2024 doesn't have an option to wield two non-light weapons now though, so we're playtesting a houserule for the 2nd bullet of Dual Wielder:
Enhanced Dual Wielding. You treat all melee weapons lacking the Two-Handed property as if they had the Light property.
Dual rapiers, dual battle axes etc. can be a thing again. Yes, this eliminates the 4th attack possibility with Nick since there is no Dual Wielder bonus action attack.
Enhanced Dual Wielding. You treat all melee weapons lacking the Two-Handed property as if they had the Light property.
Dual rapiers, dual battle axes etc. can be a thing again. Yes, this eliminates the 4th attack possibility with Nick since there is no Dual Wielder bonus action attack.
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pawsplay
Hero
Yes. I still would like the textual sources from Authoritive Sources of Rules, which have been alluded to but not linked.
mellored
Legend
https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/free-rules/equipment#Weapons
Light
When you take the Attack action on your turn and attack with a Light weapon, you can make one extra attack as a Bonus Action later on the same turn. That extra attack must be made with a different Light weapon, and you don’t add your ability modifier to the extra attack’s damage unless that modifier is negative. For example, you can attack with a Shortsword in one hand and a Dagger in the other using the Attack action and a Bonus Action, but you don’t add your Strength or Dexterity modifier to the damage roll of the Bonus Action unless that modifier is negative.Nick
When you make the extra attack of the Light property, you can make it as part of the Attack action instead of as a Bonus Action. You can make this extra attack only once per turn.Two-Weapon Fighting
Fighting Style Feat (Prerequisite: Fighting Style Feature)When you make an extra attack as a result of using a weapon that has the Light property, you can add your ability modifier to the damage of that attack if you aren’t already adding it to the damage.
Dual wielder isn't on the free rules. But it's a different bonus action.
Also worth noting, nothing here says melee attack. So you can throw daggers as well.
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