Do dragons sleep?

BloodyAx

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In the Monster Manuel, it states that "All dragons have immunity to sleep (magic sleep) and paralysis effects". What I am wondering is whether dragons sleep or not, and if they do not truly sleep, do they have an equivlilent like how elves meditate deeply.
 

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In the Monster Manuel, it states that "All dragons have immunity to sleep (magic sleep) and paralysis effects". What I am wondering is whether dragons sleep or not, and if they do not truly sleep, do they have an equivlilent like how elves meditate deeply.

Also, if dragons have blindsense and keen senses, is it possible for a character to sneak up on a sleeping one? (that is what this is all about: whether a character can sneak up on a sleeping dragon by not making noise when entering it's lair and not activating traps)
 

I would say they sleep, because the idea of snatching the treasure while the dragon is sleeping is so prevalent that it seems like they would sleep. Plus, with thousands of years of life and no tv, what else is there to do to pass the time? :)
 


Two points, one for and one against your theory:

1) Dragons have immunity to magic sleep, like elves, which don't sleep, so maybe they dont sleep
2) If I assume that they DO sleep, it is another problem over whether with their Keen Senses and Blindsight whether or not they are automatically woken by characters that do not use magical sneaking or have like 20 points in Move Silently
 



BloodyAx said:
Two points, one for and one against your theory:

1) Dragons have immunity to magic sleep, like elves, which don't sleep, so maybe they dont sleep
Ahhhmmm, I think the rules quote Primitive Screwhead is pretty clear that they DO sleep.

BloodyAx said:
2) If I assume that they DO sleep, it is another problem over whether with their Keen Senses and Blindsight whether or not they are automatically woken by characters that do not use magical sneaking or have like 20 points in Move Silently
From the 3.5 SRD:

A sleeping character may make Listen checks at a -10 penalty. A successful check awakens the sleeper.
That's be standard opposed Listen/Move Silently checks.

However, true dragons have the Blindsense ability which (from the 3.5 SRD) states:
The creature with blindsense usually does not need to make Spot or Listen checks to notice and locate creatures within range of its blindsense ability, provided that it has line of effect to that creature.
I'd say that a sleeping dragon MAY have to make a listen check. Although I'm not sure that I would apply the -10 penalty from the Listen skill description given dragons have Blindsense.
 

Given Legildur's collection of quotes, I would conclude that thier blindsense would awaken them.
Legildur said:
Ahhhmmm, I think the rules quote Primitive Screwhead is pretty clear that they DO sleep.
Elf is a Humanoid. Humanoids breathe eat and sleep. However, the elf block specifies it's deviation from the norm, the dragon does not. I also agree that they do sleep.
 


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