Define Extraplanar for me & Can you Sleep in the Astal Plane?

[Holy Bovine]

Last night in my game the PCs travelled to the Astral Plane to investigate a floating island/ruins. There they encountered a warparty of Githyanki. At one point during the fight the cleric githyanki tried to use dismissal to send the Paladin (who was a walking death machine with all the spells being heaped upon him) back to his home plane. My ruling at the time was that because the Paladin was not on his home plane (Prime) he counted as 'extraplanar' according to the spell description. The players agreed and he made his save anyway so it didn't affect play.

Now was this right? DId I screw him over? I certainly wasn't trying too and he did have a way to get back in a reasonable amount of time (high level cleric friend). I am curious if someone could point me to any rulebook or Sage advice that might explain this.

One other thing, due to the timeless nature of the Astral Plane can persons from the Prime Plane rest and regain spells while in it? I would almost think that they couldn't since you don't age or even grow hungry while in the Astral Plane.

 

[hong]

"Extraplanar" refers to anybody who isn't on their home plane. A human paladin from the Prime Material Plane is extraplanar while on the Astral. A demon from the Abyss is extraplanar while on the Prime. A planetar from Mt Celestia is also extraplanar while on the Prime.

Your ruling was correct, basically. Planeshifting PCs need to be careful about those dismissal and blasphemy spells....

 

[hammymchamham]

"Extraplanar" refers to anybody who isn't on their home plane. A human paladin from the Prime Material Plane is extraplanar while on the Astral. A demon from the Abyss is extraplanar while on the Prime. A planetar from Mt Celestia is also extraplanar while on the Prime.

Your ruling was correct, basically. Planeshifting PCs need to be careful about those dismissal and blasphemy spells....

What he said

hammy "i'm with stupid" mchamham

 

[Holy Bovine]

I had a strong feeling that was the case hong & hammymchamham (I still love that name ).

Any idea on the second question there? Can you rest and regain spells like normal on the Astral Plane?

 

[Kraedin]

Yes, you can rest and regain spells on the Astral plane. The timeless trait is very, very strange.

 

[Holy Bovine]

Kraedin - do you know where it actually explains this? The timelessness traits of the AP I mean? One of my players had the Manual of the Planes and it never addressed this (at least after a 1/2 hour of him looking through it he found nothing - his PC was out of action at the time so...). Thansk for the help guys.

 

[Kae'Yoss]

There's a short sum-up of the effects of Timeless in the "Astral Traits" part, page 47
Then there's a closer inspection of Timeless under "Time", page 10.

 

[LuYangShih]

"Resting" to regain spells is not neccessarily sleeping. It can simply be eight hours spent in prayer or refocusing the mind. And I would say there is no reason you cannot do so on the Astral Plane. After all, if you have a Ring Of Sustenance, you only need two hours of sleep, but still require eight hours of "rest" to regain spells. So, clearly, "rest" is different from sleeping in this case.

 

[Tom Cashel]

Your ruling was correct, basically. Planeshifting PCs need to be careful about those dismissal and blasphemy spells....

Even "funnier" is that planeshifting PCs can cast Dismissal on themselves and go home. The "May I Please Be Excused?" variant, as it's called in our game.