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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 7508280" data-attributes="member: 57383"><p>I was updating the CC with the 3.5 update of the <a href="https://www.enworld.org/index.php?posts/7224787/" target="_blank">Greater Urchin Working Drafts</a> and they look under-CR'd to me. This is a hold-over from the original conversions.</p><p></p><p>We gave our Land Urchin conversion CR 2 will feels about right.</p><p></p><p>The Silver Urchin is a much more formidable foe than the Land Urchin - almost the same damage but much more accurate attacks, higher AC & saves, so I feel it ought to be CR 3.</p><p></p><p>The Yellow Urchin and Red Uchin are only CR 1 but are arguably pretty close to the Land Urchin as far as being formidable foes. The Red is arguably somewhat weaker as its poison is less potent, although its average damage is actually slightly higher (three 1d4+1 spines versus six 1d2 spines works out to 10.5 vs 9, plus the Red has +9 ranged accuracy versus the Land having +5).</p><p></p><p>I suggest amending the Challenge Ratings of the Greater Urchin 3.5 updates:</p><p></p><p>Black CR 1/2</p><p>Green CR 1</p><p>Red CR 2</p><p>Yellow CR 2</p><p>Silver CR 3</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 7508280, member: 57383"] I was updating the CC with the 3.5 update of the [URL="https://www.enworld.org/index.php?posts/7224787/"]Greater Urchin Working Drafts[/URL] and they look under-CR'd to me. This is a hold-over from the original conversions. We gave our Land Urchin conversion CR 2 will feels about right. The Silver Urchin is a much more formidable foe than the Land Urchin - almost the same damage but much more accurate attacks, higher AC & saves, so I feel it ought to be CR 3. The Yellow Urchin and Red Uchin are only CR 1 but are arguably pretty close to the Land Urchin as far as being formidable foes. The Red is arguably somewhat weaker as its poison is less potent, although its average damage is actually slightly higher (three 1d4+1 spines versus six 1d2 spines works out to 10.5 vs 9, plus the Red has +9 ranged accuracy versus the Land having +5). I suggest amending the Challenge Ratings of the Greater Urchin 3.5 updates: Black CR 1/2 Green CR 1 Red CR 2 Yellow CR 2 Silver CR 3 [/QUOTE]
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