Clerics and their Holy Symbols

FCWesel

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How important are Clerical Holy Symbols to your clerics in your games?
Can they still cast spells if they lose or do not have one?
If lost, do they suffer reduced effects?
Can they Pray for spells without a holy symbol?
How easy is it for a cleric to get a new Holy Symbol?
 
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FCWesel said:
How important are Clerical Holy Symbols to your clerics in your games?

Pretty important!

Can they still cast spells if they lose or do not have one?

Sure. As long as the spell doesn't have "DF" in the component line.

If lost, do they suffer reduced effects?

If the spell has a "DF" component, its effect is reduced all the way down to "Can't cast this spell"...

Can they Pray for spells without a holy symbol?

Absolutely. But they're well-advised not to pray for the ones that need a "DF" component.

How easy is it for a cleric to get a new Holy Symbol?

It hasn't really come up, but I'd allow any cleric of their deity to create a new one by casting Bless on an appropriate icon.

Of course, Bless has a "DF" component, so they have a holy symbol to make a holy symbol... :)

-Hyp.
 
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Adamantium Holy Symbols (sunder *this*, fool!) attached to your person with lengths of chain (i.e. like a locked gauntlet) are your cleric's friend. :)
 


Or pick a god that has really accessable holy symbols... like, say Torm from FR who's Holy Symbol is a gauntlet.

Well heck, check it out - any suit of medium or heavy armor comes with two free built-in holy symbols!
 

Sejs said:
Or pick a god that has really accessable holy symbols... like, say Torm from FR who's Holy Symbol is a gauntlet.

Well heck, check it out - any suit of medium or heavy armor comes with two free built-in holy symbols!

Not necessarily.

It comes with two things that look like the representation of the holy symbol.

But "A holy symbol focuses positive energy." The standard two-to-a-suit gauntlet that comes with your Plate Armor doesn't focus positive energy, so it's not a holy symbol...

-Hyp.
 


Old Gumphrey said:
Says right 'cheah in my PHB that Wooden Holy Symbols cost 1 gp and Silver Holy Symbols cost 25 gp. Seems good enough.

Yup. But there's no guarantee that Sam's General Store will carry a holy symbol of Wee Jas, for example. You probably need to find one of her shrines or temples to purchase one... and if you're in a city where she doesn't have any followers, you might be out of luck.

-Hyp.
 

We treat DF in the same ways as material components. Which means that they are assumed to be available and don't need to be kept track of, except in very rare circumstances or when grappling (however even the latter is often forgotten).

In theory, every divine caster should take very care of his holy symbol jsut as an arcane caster should of his spell component pouch (or spellbook!). But the chance of losing it, having it sundered or stolen, or having problems in manipulating it never comes up in our games. It is a situation that adds very little to the fun of the game, as after the first time it happens the player usually starts bothering about having more foci or pouches in the backpack, sewing them on the clothes, concealing them with a spell, spending a few more money for a special item to protect them, or getting a feat which finally lets you forget about them forever (such as Eschew Materials).

Essentially, it's the kind of thing that gets an implicit agreement from the DM that would not be bothered much, unless maybe once to create the trigger for a whole adventure.
 


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