Civ 3 - Conquestes: has anyone got it yet?
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Olive said:
I don't have it (and probably won't get it for a while), but the official press release says it includes Play The World, the previous multiplayer expansion:
http://us.atari.com/press/?action=readmore&id=1019
A good place to go for Civ news and resources (for any edition) is http://www.apolyton.net, which is basically the equivalent of ENWorld for Civ players.
Civ3 never really grabbed me when I first got it - it was good, but didn't give me that Civ2 urge to play all night - but it's been growing on me recently. I'm not going to pick up Conquests for a while mostly because I got Play The World fairly recently, and there's enough new stuff in there to keep me busy for a while. I'm also a little bummed that Conquests doesn't have a full WWII scenario (just Pacific theatre), nor anything more recent than that - to me, Civ3 really hits its stride with the relatively modern tech levels. I'll probably pick Conquests up when the price drops.
Just arrived
My copy just arrived this morning. Yes, it has the content from Play the World as well as all-new material.
The new Wonders are interesting - the Statue of Zeus generates a free Ancient Cavalry unit every 5 turns, and it can later become a tourist attraction (1,000 years after creation) which increases trade in that city. That means a Wonder can be effective for a while, become obsolete, and then become a trade benefit later.
There are also new techs in the tree, allowing boats earlier.
Some diplomatic options (Trading Communications and Trading World Maps) require specific technological advances (Writing and Map Making) before they can be used.
Some new units can now enslave defeated enemy units, making workers out of them. Scientific leaders can appear; and more city specialists are available (in addition to entertainers, tax collectors, and scientists, there are now policemen).
Communist nations can build a Secret Police Headquarters, acting like a second Forbidden Palace.
Additional special terrain bonuses (tobacco, bananas, and more) appear.
Wetlands are a new terrain type. They can be drained when the right tech is researched.
All-in-all, it looks good.
My copy just arrived this morning. Yes, it has the content from Play the World as well as all-new material.
The new Wonders are interesting - the Statue of Zeus generates a free Ancient Cavalry unit every 5 turns, and it can later become a tourist attraction (1,000 years after creation) which increases trade in that city. That means a Wonder can be effective for a while, become obsolete, and then become a trade benefit later.
There are also new techs in the tree, allowing boats earlier.
Some diplomatic options (Trading Communications and Trading World Maps) require specific technological advances (Writing and Map Making) before they can be used.
Some new units can now enslave defeated enemy units, making workers out of them. Scientific leaders can appear; and more city specialists are available (in addition to entertainers, tax collectors, and scientists, there are now policemen).
Communist nations can build a Secret Police Headquarters, acting like a second Forbidden Palace.
Additional special terrain bonuses (tobacco, bananas, and more) appear.
Wetlands are a new terrain type. They can be drained when the right tech is researched.
All-in-all, it looks good.
Shard O'Glase
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so like when does civ 4 come out, and is there any word on alpha centari 2, or even more kick ass a civ/alpha centari crossover game when you just continue your game on alpha centari.
John Crichton
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Damn you all!
I'm trying to hold off on getting this expansion because FFX-2 is coming tomorrow to my doorstep. I am such a Civ junkie and I need my fix. This thread is not helping...
Anyone tried the actual conquests yet? I hear they are fun.
I'm trying to hold off on getting this expansion because FFX-2 is coming tomorrow to my doorstep. I am such a Civ junkie and I need my fix. This thread is not helping...
Anyone tried the actual conquests yet? I hear they are fun.
Observations
Some random observations from playing with the game for a bit, now:
1) The Statue of Zeus wonder is very nice. Spontaneously generates an "Ancient Cavalry" unit every 5 turns.
2) The changes to the tech tree take some getting used to; some of the old "paths" are gone, but there are new ones.
3) I like choices; having about 30 cultures to choose from is fun.
4) I like choices; more government types and more civilization "characteristics" makes things interesting.
5) Having more types of bonus things to put on the map means there are LESS of any 1 type than in previous versions. As a result, you will find it more necessary to trade with other nations, or make war, to obtain strategic resources. In 3 games so far on a "Large" world, I have had a total of 2 squares producing Iron. This is especially bad as I am playing civilizations that gets a "special unit" requiring Iron to build.
6) The "Victory Status" screen is a new display that shows how much you have accomplished in the various paths to victory (what % of world land area and population you control, who built the UN, how much culture you are producing, etc.) compared to your nearest rival in each area (who owns the biggest rival culture producing city, which civ is the biggest rival in culture overall, which rival has the highest land area %, etc.). This makes a nice "big picture" summary of where you stand compared to the others. It is a 4th option with the histographs of power, score, and culture that were there before.
Some random observations from playing with the game for a bit, now:
1) The Statue of Zeus wonder is very nice. Spontaneously generates an "Ancient Cavalry" unit every 5 turns.
2) The changes to the tech tree take some getting used to; some of the old "paths" are gone, but there are new ones.
3) I like choices; having about 30 cultures to choose from is fun.
4) I like choices; more government types and more civilization "characteristics" makes things interesting.
5) Having more types of bonus things to put on the map means there are LESS of any 1 type than in previous versions. As a result, you will find it more necessary to trade with other nations, or make war, to obtain strategic resources. In 3 games so far on a "Large" world, I have had a total of 2 squares producing Iron. This is especially bad as I am playing civilizations that gets a "special unit" requiring Iron to build.
6) The "Victory Status" screen is a new display that shows how much you have accomplished in the various paths to victory (what % of world land area and population you control, who built the UN, how much culture you are producing, etc.) compared to your nearest rival in each area (who owns the biggest rival culture producing city, which civ is the biggest rival in culture overall, which rival has the highest land area %, etc.). This makes a nice "big picture" summary of where you stand compared to the others. It is a 4th option with the histographs of power, score, and culture that were there before.
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