Armor Ability that Reduces Armor Check Penalty?

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Are there any armor special abilities (preferably from a 3.5 source) that reduce the armor check penalty for that armor? My particular interest is reducing or eliminating the -2 armor check penalty for Warforged with the Mithril body Feat without having to burn two additional feats (!!!).
 

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Hm, there are limited ways to reduce the armor check penalty, but I don't think there's a way to eliminate it entirely (esp for the better armors) without a significant sacrifice elsewhere. It's a game balance issue. In this case, the loss of the feats are making up for the advantage of no armor check penalty.
 

I have seen that in the Book of Dwarves, a d20 product (3.0), some special crafting methods can lower teh penalty.
 

Check out 'Magic of Faerun' for the Nimbleness armor enhancement. It's technically 3.0 but there's nothing about it that would prevent it from being used as is in 3.5 I believe. It's a +1 enhancement and reduces the armor's armor check penalty by 1 as well as increases the maximum Dex bonus by +2.
 


Keep in mind that Warforged with the X Body feats don't actually have an Armor Check penalty.

They have a penalty which is similar, but not identical, to the same (for one, it doesn't apply to attack rolls due to nonproficiency).

Your DM would need to house rule the ability you've found to work with your warforged body (just as, oddly enough, he needs to house rule the Mithril Fluidity feat).
 

Cecil Solomon said:
Hm, there are limited ways to reduce the armor check penalty, but I don't think there's a way to eliminate it entirely (esp for the better armors) without a significant sacrifice elsewhere. It's a game balance issue. In this case, the loss of the feats are making up for the advantage of no armor check penalty.

Well, I wouldn't exactly call 3 feats in exchange for a +5 armor bonus and no armor check penalty balanced. It seems like the mithril body feat is identical to the stats for breastplate armor made of mithril, but the armor check penalty is -2 instead of -1.

Oh well; if I make a warforged rogue or scout, I may just skip the mithril body feat entirely.
 

Bastion Press's Arms and Armor Revised(3.5) has Weightless.

Weightless: Armor given this enchantment has
no weight at all. Weightless armor removes any ad-
justment for speed from a given armor type and re-
duces the arcane spell failure percentage chance by
10%. It also decreases the Armor Check penalty by 2
and increases the Max Dex adjustment by 2.
Caster Level: 7th; Prerequisites: Craft Magic Arms
& Armor, levitate; Market Price: +1 bonus for light or
medium armor and +2 bonus for heavy armor
 

The Complete Book of Eldritch Might by Monte Cook has an armor enhancement called Manuvering. I do not have the book with me right now but I believe that it reduces your armor check penalty by 2. I also believe that it is a +1 enhancement bonus. My DM allowed my to have it enchanted on my Warforged fighter/warmage to bring the skill penalty of his mithral body feat to zero.
 

Gnome said:
Are there any armor special abilities (preferably from a 3.5 source) that reduce the armor check penalty for that armor? My particular interest is reducing or eliminating the -2 armor check penalty for Warforged with the Mithril body Feat without having to burn two additional feats (!!!).

Hi!

I don't know if it's applicable, but the Book of Exalted Deeds has the TWILIGHT armor special ability that reduces ASFC and ACP.

Enjoy!
 

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