D&D 3E/3.5 Anyone have Illithid v3.5 stats?

I've been looking for them everywhere but can't seem to find them. If you also have any other illithidkin stats please give them to me. I love illithids, and I want to base a campaign around them, but don't have their stats.

Thanks.:)
 

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If ya don't have the MM 3.5, you're pretty much out of luck. They're Wizard property, non-open source, and you won't find their stats on SRD. In fact, I'm pretty sure it's illegal to post specifics on their stats.

But if you do have the old MM 3.0, they haven't changed much. ;) I don't think they did changed a thing from the old edition. They did add a LA to it, so that they're marginally playable as PC classes, but you need to start of as level 15 or 16 characters to pull that off, I believe...
 



Try this site in order to access the most current rules. They contain nearly all of the material that is contained within the three core rulebooks (minus certain monsters and various sidebars), and also contain a great deal of rules from the Psionic, Epic, and Divine Handbooks (not exact names, but you get the point). Check back every now and then, since they update the site with new open game content every now and then (Unearthed Arcana is next. Whee! :D)

As for the Illithid stats, you'll need a Monster Manual 3.5 to get what you want. If you manage to get you hands on a Expanded Psionics Handbook (also refered to as the XPH), it also has the Mind Flayer stats, although it has Telepath manifester levels instead of the regular spell-like abilities (under psionics). If you want to extrapolate the regular Mind Flayer stats from the XPH, then replace the Telepath manifester levels with a select number of spell-like abilities usable at will. I can't list them, but I'm pretty confident that the XPH's version is better. ;)

So, you either want the Monster Manual 3.5, or the Expanded Psionics Handbook (recomended).

Oh, and the XPH version of psionics is much different than the 3.0 psionics. If you plan on playing 3.5, you should read up on the new rules in the link provided above. It's much more balanced, from what I hear.
 

The 3.0 Monster Manual has illithid stats for 3.0 D&D. The half-illithid template, along with a sample half-illithid lizardfolk, is in the Fiend Folio. The Fiend Folio is sort of a transitional book between 3.0 and 3.5 I think, so just be aware that it has some changes to creature types, subtypes, and the basic stats for some creature types. The illithilich, or alhoon, is described in brief at the back of the Monstrous Compendium: Monsters of Faerun, for 3.0. I think the standard illithid is also duplicated with a racial level progression in Savage Species, for 3.0, but like the Fiend Folio that book is sorta inbetween 3.0 and 3.5 in its rules.

You won't find the illithid stats online, as illithids are one of the critters designated as Product Identity or somesuch and, thus, illegal to reproduce in print or online except by Wizards of the Coast. Don't ask us to post the illithid stats or description.

If you want to run a 3rd Edition campaign of any sort, it's almost essential to buy the three core rulebooks, though you could manage with just the online copies of the free SRD (System Reference Document). The SRD contains most Open Game Content from 3rd Edition D&D. But experience point charts, basic character level advancement stuff, suggested average wealth by level charts, and such are only available in the actual Player's Handbook and Dungeon Master's Guide. If you don't want to spend more money on getting the 3E DMG and MM for running your games, then you'll just have to come up with your own versions of the aforementioned XP/wealth/advancement charts, and make up your own version of 3E illithid stats based on what precedents you see in the books you have and in the SRD.

There's a PDF product available from Lion's Den Press, if I recall correctly, called the Iconic Bestiary, which has Open Game Content versions of various iconic D&D monsters that cannot be reproduced; the iconic monsters in that product are just vaguely similar to the D&D monsters they mimic, filling more or less the same roles as such critters in D&D play. They have different names and stats, but generally resemble the un-reproducible D&D monsters such as illithids and yuan-ti. Buying this PDF online should be cheaper than buying the Monster Manual itself.

*hopes he didn't get mixed up on the name of the PDF's producer*
 

Yeah, thanks. I'm probably going to go buy the MM v. 3.0 (it's only ten dollars at my local comic book shop, and I prefer buying the old one for twenty dollars less) and see what illithid stats it has. I might also end up buying the XPH, but since I alreay have the old one, and have copies of an SRD, I'm not really sure if it's worth it.
 

Does anyone know if the Illithiad, the other three books it accompanies, Unveiled Masters: The Essential Guide to Mind Flayers, or Lords of Madness: THe Book of Aberrations are any good?


Thanks.
 

Lords of Madness has more information on mind flayers, and statisitcs for illithidkin (including the alhoon, illithidae, urophion, and elder brain).
 


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