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<blockquote data-quote="Panda-s1" data-source="post: 8031707" data-attributes="member: 59554"><p>okay, if you actually read what I posted you'd see that D&D was first published in Japanese in 1985, the same year OA came out. publishing a book in a foreign country in a foreign language usually involves a lot of correspondence, so it's not like they didn't have the means necessary to ask "hey could you have some Japanese players take a look at this stuff and see what they think?" while they're at it. though now that I think about it, that makes the level of input look even worse.</p><p></p><p><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="🙄" title="Face with rolling eyes :rolling_eyes:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" data-shortname=":rolling_eyes:" /></p><p>[EXCERPT]</p><p>this also doesn't address the fact they're still just a Japanese group of players. as everyone has said before "Asian people aren't a monolith!". I know it sounds cynical, but while this group may have had a decent to surprisingly amazing level of expertise on Japanese history I don't expect the same level of expertise for other Asian cultures. [/EXCERPT]</p><p></p><p></p><p>if it's bad, then why bend over backwards to defend it? there's a lot of material now that is probably not only better but coincidentally stands up better to academic rigor. you can still buy OA second hand, but it's just a curiosity at best at this point.</p><p></p><p>also I don't think you understand the level of influence a product made for entertainment purposes can have. if this was someone's only view into Asian culture it's going to skew how they view Asian culture. this isn't to say it's <em>wrong</em> to gain knowledge or insight via entertainment, but to do so without realizing the context of it can lead to skewed results.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Panda-s1, post: 8031707, member: 59554"] okay, if you actually read what I posted you'd see that D&D was first published in Japanese in 1985, the same year OA came out. publishing a book in a foreign country in a foreign language usually involves a lot of correspondence, so it's not like they didn't have the means necessary to ask "hey could you have some Japanese players take a look at this stuff and see what they think?" while they're at it. though now that I think about it, that makes the level of input look even worse. 🙄 [EXCERPT] this also doesn't address the fact they're still just a Japanese group of players. as everyone has said before "Asian people aren't a monolith!". I know it sounds cynical, but while this group may have had a decent to surprisingly amazing level of expertise on Japanese history I don't expect the same level of expertise for other Asian cultures. [/EXCERPT] if it's bad, then why bend over backwards to defend it? there's a lot of material now that is probably not only better but coincidentally stands up better to academic rigor. you can still buy OA second hand, but it's just a curiosity at best at this point. also I don't think you understand the level of influence a product made for entertainment purposes can have. if this was someone's only view into Asian culture it's going to skew how they view Asian culture. this isn't to say it's [I]wrong[/I] to gain knowledge or insight via entertainment, but to do so without realizing the context of it can lead to skewed results. [/QUOTE]
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