A quick question on opening a door

[Belares]

Can you move 30' (having a 30' movement) and open a door at the end of your movement or during your move?

I think you cannot but i am unsure as opening a door is a move equivalent action, so you cannot move AND open a door. I may be having a brain-fart day so i need some explanation on doing somethings like that.

 

[mmu1]

Of course you can move and open a door. Opening a door isn't really a "Move Equivalent Action", it'd be more precise to say it requires "At least a Move Equivalent Action." So you move 30' with your MEA, and open the door using the Standard Action you still have left over.

Although you couldn't, for example, move 15', open a door, and then keep on moving - that requires three actions.

 

[Belares]

what is confusing me is the "opening a door is a MEA". Say you and a opponent are in melee he takes a 5' step through the door and closes it. You take a 5' step and open the door and then you can attack because you used a MEA and then got a attack.

Can he instead open the door and move his full movement?
Can you move 10' open a door and move 20 more feet..you said no then how can you open a door then move? it is the same thing sorta

 

[mmu1]

You can do several things:

1. You're up to 30' away from a door, so you use one of your actions to move 30', and then use your remaining action to open it. You can do nothing else this round.

2. You're right next to a door, so you open it (MEA) and then can move up to 30'.

3. You're right next to a door, so you open it (MEA), take a 5' step and attack or use another MEA.

But you can't move 15', open a door, and then move another 15' - you can't split the movement you get from a single Move action, because it'd allow people to replicate most of the effects of feats like Spring Attack and Shot on the Run without having to take the feat.

There might be a lot of situations in which it'd be reasonable for a DM to rule that you can move, open a door and keep on moving, but by the rules, you can't. (unless 3E Haste comes into play)

 

[kreynolds]

Opening a door isn't really a "Move Equivalent Action"...

Actually, it really is. See Table 8-4 on page 128 of the PH.

 

[mmu1]

Actually, it really is. See Table 8-4 on page 128 of the PH.

Bad choice of words on my part. Oh well, a whole thread down the drain... Or would have been, if not for the helpful page reference...

 

[dcollins]

Can you move 30' (having a 30' movement) and open a door at the end of your movement or during your move?

To answer the original question, "yes", absolutely you can do this.

Note that it's always an option to take a "double move action" instead of a standard action (PHB p. 121 [under "MEA"], and p. 122, Table 8-1). Do that, use one MEA to move 30 ft., use the other MEA to open the door, and your turn is then finished.

 

[Rel]

You can also do what we've done many times in our games:

Open Door (MEA)

See something incredibly and obviously dangerous on the other side (Free Action Spot Check)

Close Door (MEA)

Scream for help (Free Action)


All in one round.

Is weeping a Free Action?

 

[kreynolds]

Is weeping a Free Action?

Not if you pee your pants.

 

[Rel]

Weeping alone is a Free Action. Peeing your pants is MEA in my opinon. Crapping yourself in fear is obviously Standard and could be taken as a Partial Action.

We've been using this since we started playing 3E and I swear we have had no balance problems:

"I move 30 feet away from the Dragon and ready an action to Crap My Pants if he comes within 10 feet."

Actually (and I know I'm straying well into House Rules territory here) we did have one issue come up where a player wanted to Pee Himself as a MEA and then Pee Himself again the same round. The DM had him make a DC 15 Concentration Check. Does that sound fair?


(I swear I'll stop now if kreynolds will do the same. )