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<blockquote data-quote="ilgatto" data-source="post: 8868664" data-attributes="member: 86051"><p>I agree with the notion that dragons needn't have undifferentiated teeth - indeed, I have never, ever, for a single moment considered that they might have.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'd love to see the 1E notion of multiple attacks for Fighters honored - even though it could probably be argued that the author may simply have said that dragon warriors attacked as 6th-level Fighters because OD&D.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Construct, Humanoid, Monstrosity, a point could be made for any of these and I admit that I first thought of them as constructs for my 2E conversion way back when. However, Cleon posting the original text upthread and subsequent posts made me realize that there's actually nothing in the text to suggest that they are constructs - except for the sleep/charm/hold immunity, which I have now explained away for myself as being due to non-intelligence.</p><p>Therefore: Doesn't making them a Construct make them too powerful?</p><p></p><p>What were the Jason/Cadmus warriors made of?</p><p></p><p>Seems like <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spartoi" target="_blank">those sewn by Cadmus</a> became real-life men and that <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon%27s_teeth_(mythology)" target="_blank">those sewn by Jason</a> started killing each other the second threw a pebble at them, which one could consider to be typically human behavior...</p><p>However, it doesn't seem like the 5E description of Humanoids is typically meant to include 'warriors born of dragon teeth', so that's a bit of a problem.</p><p>The same is probably true from what I understand from the description of Monstrosity.</p><p></p><p>So I'd say stick with the creature type that results in the least deviations from the abilities of the original.</p><p></p><p>Perhaps unfortunately so, in light of the Jason/Cadmus warriors and the notion of figurines of wondrous power generating Beasts, that would probably mean Humanoid, but then with the added mindlessness/non-intelligence/single-mindedness?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ilgatto, post: 8868664, member: 86051"] I agree with the notion that dragons needn't have undifferentiated teeth - indeed, I have never, ever, for a single moment considered that they might have. I'd love to see the 1E notion of multiple attacks for Fighters honored - even though it could probably be argued that the author may simply have said that dragon warriors attacked as 6th-level Fighters because OD&D. Construct, Humanoid, Monstrosity, a point could be made for any of these and I admit that I first thought of them as constructs for my 2E conversion way back when. However, Cleon posting the original text upthread and subsequent posts made me realize that there's actually nothing in the text to suggest that they are constructs - except for the sleep/charm/hold immunity, which I have now explained away for myself as being due to non-intelligence. Therefore: Doesn't making them a Construct make them too powerful? What were the Jason/Cadmus warriors made of? Seems like [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spartoi']those sewn by Cadmus[/URL] became real-life men and that [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon%27s_teeth_(mythology)']those sewn by Jason[/URL] started killing each other the second threw a pebble at them, which one could consider to be typically human behavior... However, it doesn't seem like the 5E description of Humanoids is typically meant to include 'warriors born of dragon teeth', so that's a bit of a problem. The same is probably true from what I understand from the description of Monstrosity. So I'd say stick with the creature type that results in the least deviations from the abilities of the original. Perhaps unfortunately so, in light of the Jason/Cadmus warriors and the notion of figurines of wondrous power generating Beasts, that would probably mean Humanoid, but then with the added mindlessness/non-intelligence/single-mindedness? [/QUOTE]
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