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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 8470993" data-attributes="member: 57383"><p>Okay, transcribing the above made me realize it didn't have (natural armor), which is presumably why it's AC 14.</p><p></p><p>Also, doesn't Constitution 18 feel too high? They don't seem to be hardier than a regular creature.</p><p></p><p>Maybe give them lower Con and more Hit Dice?</p><p></p><p>Let's see, to keep it at around 19 hit points, our options are:</p><p></p><p><strong>Hit Points</strong> 22 (4d4 + 12)</p><p><strong>Constitution</strong> 16 (+3)</p><p></p><p><strong>Hit Points</strong> 18 (4d4 + 8)</p><p><strong>Constitution</strong> 14 (+2)</p><p></p><p><strong>Hit Points</strong> 17 (5d4 + 5)</p><p><strong>Constitution</strong> 12 (+1)</p><p></p><p><strong>Hit Points</strong> 21 (6d4 + 6)</p><p><strong>Constitution</strong> 12 (+1)</p><p></p><p><strong>Hit Points</strong> 20 (8d4)</p><p><strong>Constitution</strong> 10 (+0)</p><p></p><p>Do any of those appeal to you?</p><p></p><p>I like the 18 hp (4d4+8), Con 14 (+2) one the best, followed at a distance by the 20 hp (8d4), Con 10.</p><p></p><p>There are creatures with 8d4 Hit Dice in the 5eSRD, but I can't find any that aren't Third-Party Products. There are none in the core 5E <em>Monster Manual</em>.</p><p></p><p>The <em>MM</em> does have Tiny monsters with MORE Hit Dice thought, topped by the Demilich with 80 hp (32d4), Con 10 (+0)!</p><p></p><p>The closest that book has to 8d4 plus nothing HD is the <strong><a href="https://www.5esrd.com/database/creature/will-o-wisp/" target="_blank"><strong>Will-o'-Wisp</strong></a></strong> with 22 hp (9d4), Con 10 (+0).</p><p></p><p>A <strong>Flameskull</strong> has 40 hp (9d4+18), Con 14 (+2), showing you can have Tiny monsters with decent Constitutions.</p><p></p><p>The <strong>Intellect Devourer</strong> has 21 hp (6d4+6) like one of the Options, except it has Con 13 (+1) instead (not that that matters for this comparison).</p><p></p><p>EDIT: I only linked the Will-o'-Wisp above, since many of the monsters are covered by Product Identity. Thus they are either missing from the 5eSRD.com or are versions from Third Party Publications which have different stats to the official creatures in WotC publications.</p><p></p><p>For example, the 3PP <strong><a href="https://www.5esrd.com/database/creature/intellect-devourer/" target="_blank"><strong>Intellect Devourer</strong></a></strong> [8d4+16, Con 14 (+2)] by Frog God Games and <a href="https://www.5esrd.com/database/creature/demi-lich/" target="_blank"><strong>Demi-Lich</strong></a> [hp 110 (20d4+60), Con 17 (+3)] by Necromancer Games, both of which have more hp than the sanctioned versions.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 8470993, member: 57383"] Okay, transcribing the above made me realize it didn't have (natural armor), which is presumably why it's AC 14. Also, doesn't Constitution 18 feel too high? They don't seem to be hardier than a regular creature. Maybe give them lower Con and more Hit Dice? Let's see, to keep it at around 19 hit points, our options are: [B]Hit Points[/B] 22 (4d4 + 12) [B]Constitution[/B] 16 (+3) [B]Hit Points[/B] 18 (4d4 + 8) [B]Constitution[/B] 14 (+2) [B]Hit Points[/B] 17 (5d4 + 5) [B]Constitution[/B] 12 (+1) [B]Hit Points[/B] 21 (6d4 + 6) [B]Constitution[/B] 12 (+1) [B]Hit Points[/B] 20 (8d4) [B]Constitution[/B] 10 (+0) Do any of those appeal to you? I like the 18 hp (4d4+8), Con 14 (+2) one the best, followed at a distance by the 20 hp (8d4), Con 10. There are creatures with 8d4 Hit Dice in the 5eSRD, but I can't find any that aren't Third-Party Products. There are none in the core 5E [I]Monster Manual[/I]. The [I]MM[/I] does have Tiny monsters with MORE Hit Dice thought, topped by the Demilich with 80 hp (32d4), Con 10 (+0)! The closest that book has to 8d4 plus nothing HD is the [B][URL='https://www.5esrd.com/database/creature/will-o-wisp/'][B]Will-o'-Wisp[/B][/URL][/B] with 22 hp (9d4), Con 10 (+0). A [B]Flameskull[/B] has 40 hp (9d4+18), Con 14 (+2), showing you can have Tiny monsters with decent Constitutions. The [B]Intellect Devourer[/B] has 21 hp (6d4+6) like one of the Options, except it has Con 13 (+1) instead (not that that matters for this comparison). EDIT: I only linked the Will-o'-Wisp above, since many of the monsters are covered by Product Identity. Thus they are either missing from the 5eSRD.com or are versions from Third Party Publications which have different stats to the official creatures in WotC publications. For example, the 3PP [B][URL='https://www.5esrd.com/database/creature/intellect-devourer/'][B]Intellect Devourer[/B][/URL][/B] [8d4+16, Con 14 (+2)] by Frog God Games and [URL='https://www.5esrd.com/database/creature/demi-lich/'][B]Demi-Lich[/B][/URL] [hp 110 (20d4+60), Con 17 (+3)] by Necromancer Games, both of which have more hp than the sanctioned versions. [/QUOTE]
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