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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 8838608" data-attributes="member: 57383"><p>It should really have "Resistances" rather than "Immunities" in the calculation since (a) you've given it Damage Resistance to bludgeoning/piercing/slashing from nonmagical unsilvered weapons and (b) there's basically zero odds of a CR-appropriate party not having magical weapons.</p><p></p><p>Even with Damage Resistance when I plug the above numbers in the CR Calculator came out Challenge 23.</p><p></p><p>Also, I'm not keen on the staff doing such a high proportion of cold damage. A Balor does about 60% more slashing damage than lightning damage with its Longsword.</p><p></p><p>Speaking of its Twisted Staff, why would it do force damage rather than the normal bludgeoning of a staff? The original monster just does ordinary magic weapon damage augmented by the guy's supernatural strength.</p><p></p><p>I could get Challenge 21 by reducing the HP to 250 (20d10 + 140) and the DPR to 82-92, say by making the Staff 15 (2d6 + 8) bludgeoning plus 10 (2d8) cold damage for 75 average damage and increasing the Mockery damage to 4d6.</p><p></p><p>A lot of the issue is the high regeneration rate. A 5E Balor doesn't regenerate, unlike the AD&D version, and you've given Adonides twice as fast a regeneration as a 5E Troll. If it had regeneration 5 or 10 it could have a way higher DPR.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 8838608, member: 57383"] It should really have "Resistances" rather than "Immunities" in the calculation since (a) you've given it Damage Resistance to bludgeoning/piercing/slashing from nonmagical unsilvered weapons and (b) there's basically zero odds of a CR-appropriate party not having magical weapons. Even with Damage Resistance when I plug the above numbers in the CR Calculator came out Challenge 23. Also, I'm not keen on the staff doing such a high proportion of cold damage. A Balor does about 60% more slashing damage than lightning damage with its Longsword. Speaking of its Twisted Staff, why would it do force damage rather than the normal bludgeoning of a staff? The original monster just does ordinary magic weapon damage augmented by the guy's supernatural strength. I could get Challenge 21 by reducing the HP to 250 (20d10 + 140) and the DPR to 82-92, say by making the Staff 15 (2d6 + 8) bludgeoning plus 10 (2d8) cold damage for 75 average damage and increasing the Mockery damage to 4d6. A lot of the issue is the high regeneration rate. A 5E Balor doesn't regenerate, unlike the AD&D version, and you've given Adonides twice as fast a regeneration as a 5E Troll. If it had regeneration 5 or 10 it could have a way higher DPR. [/QUOTE]
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