12 year old girls love, 20+ year old people hate
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Viking Bastard
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Hip hop. Spice Girls. Backstreet Boys.
crazy_monkey1956
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N'sync, New Kids on the Block (recently saw they were trying to make a comeback...they should probably change their name to Old Men on the Block).
Seems to me that it is the pre-packaged kid pop, a genre that is currently monopolized by so-called by "Disney Pop."
Seems to me that it is the pre-packaged kid pop, a genre that is currently monopolized by so-called by "Disney Pop."
You're well above 20 years old, right Bullgrit?
Folks who are newly-adult will often reject things strongly associated with their prior adolescent status. The things that say "childhood" are pushed away, as real, mature folks don't have anything to do with kidstuff.
Older folks may just find their music... insipid, lacking in nuance, depth, and emotional complexity.
There is also the simple matter of overexposure - the 'tween stars often take up a whole lot of screen and air time, sometimes seemingly forcing out other material. Now, if you're a fan, that's a fine thing, but if you aren't a fan, that will add to your dislike.
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coyote6
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Bieber, Miley Cyrus, Jonas Bros., N'Sync, Britney, Backstreet Boys, Spice Girls, New Kids on the Block, Tiffany, Debbie whatshername, Menudo, Madonna . . . you can probably run the line all the way back to the Monkees, if not the Beatles and Elvis, I imagine. Who knows, maybe Sinatra and Crosby -- I'm not that up on '40s singer fan demographics. 
Some of the artists evolve and expand out of that demographic (i.e., Beatles, Madonna, even Britney Spears and Justin Timberlake; Miley Cyrus seems to be trying that now, judging by her latest video), and some go away when their particular generation of tweens & teens grows up (like, say, most of the rest of the boy bands).
I think genres other than pop go through the same thing, more-or-less. Avenged Sevenfold was really popular with the kids I knew that "hated" pop, but not hearing much about them now. Or look at hip-hop -- how many artists manage to maintain popularity & sell records over multiple decades? Not many that I can think of. I'm curious to see if Jay-Z, Eminem, Lil Wayne, & so forth can pull it off. Jay-Z's been around 14 years or so, which is a long time, but still seems as popular as ever.
Others were around earlier, and haven't had flops per se -- but they haven't put out albums recently (I'm thinking about Will Smith & LL Cool J, for example). If LL had a massive hit album tomorrow, I think they'd probably call it a comeback.
Some of the artists evolve and expand out of that demographic (i.e., Beatles, Madonna, even Britney Spears and Justin Timberlake; Miley Cyrus seems to be trying that now, judging by her latest video), and some go away when their particular generation of tweens & teens grows up (like, say, most of the rest of the boy bands).
I think genres other than pop go through the same thing, more-or-less. Avenged Sevenfold was really popular with the kids I knew that "hated" pop, but not hearing much about them now. Or look at hip-hop -- how many artists manage to maintain popularity & sell records over multiple decades? Not many that I can think of. I'm curious to see if Jay-Z, Eminem, Lil Wayne, & so forth can pull it off. Jay-Z's been around 14 years or so, which is a long time, but still seems as popular as ever.
Others were around earlier, and haven't had flops per se -- but they haven't put out albums recently (I'm thinking about Will Smith & LL Cool J, for example). If LL had a massive hit album tomorrow, I think they'd probably call it a comeback.
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Crothian
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The Brat Pack, Bubblegum pop music
Shaun & David Cassidy and Leif Garrett were the teen idols when I was a kid.
As I got older, there came the rise of the Boy Bands, which gave me the first inklings of the purchasing power of Generation Y.
I was on vacation from law school, visiting some people in Michigan and their daughters were all into NKOTB (New Kids on the Block, for those not in the know). Each girl in the little pack had bought the band's latest CD...and most of them had bought one for each member of the band.
I just about wore out my portable CD player spinning Soundgarden's Screaming Life/Fopp to stay sane.
- but 20+ guys liked her too, it was just the 20+ women that hated her
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Ed_Laprade
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This. When I was a kid it was Elvis, then the Beatles. And from what I've heard, Sinatra and Crosby started that way. But they were older and got into movies, which probably is what kept them current as their fans got older. Just like Elvis and the Beatles. And, of course, their music was good, just like Elvis and the Beatles.Bieber, Miley Cyrus, Jonas Bros., N'Sync, Britney, Backstreet Boys, Spice Girls, New Kids on the Block, Tiffany, Debbie whatshername, Menudo, Madonna . . . you can probably run the line all the way back to the Monkees, if not the Beatles and Elvis, I imagine. Who knows, maybe Sinatra and Crosby -- I'm not that up on '40s singer fan demographics.
Some of the artists evolve and expand out of that demographic (i.e., Beatles, Madonna, even Britney Spears and Justin Timberlake; Miley Cyrus seems to be trying that now, judging by her latest video), and some go away when their particular generation of tweens & teens grows up (like, say, most of the rest of the boy bands).
I'd say that the Monkees are a prime example of a band who's audience outgrew them, but they were an artifically created band to begin with, so their staying power was questionable from the beginning.
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