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FYI, you were correct. I was not talking about at the same level

No, @Micah Sweet is correct. I was not talking about a the same level. Sorry for the confusion I was writing at 3am on 1.5 hrs of sleep (dog woke me up). Castle and Lobo would be the same class at different levels. My point is: what ever level the Castle character tops out at (10, 20, 30)- that...

It is a matter of perspective. None of what I propose limits what martial characters can do (which seems to be your fear), in fact, we already expand what they can do beyond 4e and incorporate many 4e elements (and beyond) in our 5e game. You seem to want to accuse me of wanting to take away...

except of a god's magic except artifacts. While a agree that 5e RAW could be cleaned up by revising or eliminating anti-magic (perhaps dispel magic too). That is not what interest me. I know to much and I would prefer the rules acknowledge there is more than type of fantasy. I can play a...

I disagree, but I don't see any point in discussing it further. I can't speak to other people - but that is pretty much what I want. That was my first post in this thread. I want a mundane class or two that can do all the wildly possible things (probably about everything the current lvl 20 can...

Like I thought, I wasn't clear. In this example Lobo is human.

There a many types of fantasy.

Actually that is a problem within 5e at least. It is not clearly defined. What I want is a clear definition. What does anti-magic affect: spells and magical effects? However, per sage advice that does not include "innate magic" like dragon's flight or beholder's hover, etc. If we had a clearly...

So you think someone who doesn't know One Piece knows what a shounen series is? ;)

We are on the same page. That it how I feel as well. However, to be clear I am almost never talking about settings, simply game rules.

What you suggesting was indeed my original intent., it just didn't work out that way when I sat down. Not sure why. I am responding to this now because my dog woke me up to go the bathroom and I couldn't immediately go back to sleep. I am not really my best self at the moment.

OK, I thought up a little example that I think illustrates what I want (but I am probably wrong). I am using Frank Castle (the Punisher) and Lobo as to extremes of the broadly similar fictional martial antihero spectrum. Castle is supposed to be like a RL human and Lobo superhuman, but are...

I am having a hard time understanding the distinction you are trying to make, but... ...I want: I would prefer the game to have clear game jargon for various different magical or supernatural elements. So rules interactions are clearly understood. Like anti-magic works on magic, but not...

I don't have any issue with fantasy worlds being different from reality, I in fact encourage it. I am not looking for in-world / in-fiction justifications. I just want to understand it from a game rules perspective. I want: I would prefer the game to have clear game jargon for various...

I don't have any issue with One piece as a game setting. I am not looking for in-world / in-fiction justifications. I just want to understand it from a game rules perspective. So it would just be clear that humans in the One Piece setting can be supernaturally big or strong compared to real life...

Yes I agree. The disagreement seems to be twofold (but I am not really sure why people are getting so worked up about it). Different people may not share both this concerns. I would prefer the game to have clear game jargon for various different magical or supernatural elements. So rules...

I really have no idea what your are trying to argue. Do at least agree there is confusion in the way the game (and here I am talking about 5e) treats magical things?

I don't think that is what they are saying, but will let them answer for themselves.. Not my place to speak for them.

I believe it is generally impossible for humans to not view a fantasy world with respect to our own lives and reality. I think it is natural, OK, and unavoidable even. Do you think, sitting at home, that you can put down the keyboard and summon a demon or cast fireballs with enough training and...

This is the general D&D form - so anything goes. However, this thread was tagged 5e, so you have a point there.