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Critical, overwhelming problem with this post: SEEMED LIKE. Meaning that is your personal perception of what is going on. It is not the singular objective analysis of what was done there. I have no interest in re-litigating this for the umpteenth time. Hence: Suffice it to say that this is...

Oh god, not this old chestnut again. Suffice it to say this is an extremely controversial take.

Yes, I think they would. Metamagic is a bit slim, but still solid, and 5.5e added Innate Sorcery which very much helps (and makes Sorcerers feel more aggressive than Wizards). Subclass features could be flavored as Wizard school effects, but many are a bit scattershot relative to Wizard schools...

I mean I don't think that's necessary in the slightest unless we're specifically trying to make a new sim game. Then, yes, we would need to do that. In a truly context-free case, we would simply be evaluating whether a game's mechanics serve the goals for which they were designed, or not. So a...

And I specifically said that if all someone is saying is personal preference, that would be fine. But several folks are not doing that. They are not saying "this makes me happy" or "I like how this works". They are saying things like "D&D is a really good simulation game". Or, IIRC, someone--it...

If you've never eaten a dish, does reading dozens of recipes for it tell you what it tastes like? It sounds to me like you're saying "I can have whatever opinion I want, I don't need to actually experience anything." Experience matters. I should think any fan of "simulation" would agree with at...

But if there is no such thing as "a simulation(istic) game", and no such thing as "supporting simulation(istic) play", then what on Earth have people even been talking about? Folks here have repeatedly asserted fundamental ideas, whether directly, or as a required element of some other...

Worthless? Maybe not, but it's probably not going to carry a lot of weight if they have no experience outside of one or two editions of a single game. Like, imagine the following examples. 1: Anime "Sword Art Online is one of the greatest fantasy anime shows ever made." "Er...what makes you...

That final bolded bit is....gonna be a real, real hard sell. Because now it means that we can functionally call ANY system "simulationist" in the second sense, if ANYONE has EVER used them for the purpose of "simulation-like activity", which is so broad as to be nearly meaningless. 52 Pickup...

Anyone playing a single game for more than a year is, almost by definition, not a casual player anymore. They're in it for the (very) long haul at that point. They've joined the D&D "club" if you will, rather than just attending an event.

Correction: These are actions which involve rules. Well, plus the (several) generic moves. Anything that doesn't involve rules is perfectly fair game. There just won't be any rolling involved because there won't be any need for it. You keep acting like DW and other such games just forbid...

Do those things get shown to players? In Dungeon World, the only things actually shown to players are that they need to have Bonds with stuff (typically, but not exclusively, other party members). That's it. Well, that and being told things like "if you want to use a move, talk about what...

More importantly, I think most people who play TTRPGs would be deeply confused why anyone would care that much about most of the things people who know what "simulationism" and "gamism" and "narrativism" mean. They just want a game that: Lets them have a cool (and often, humorous) fantastical...

I never said it was bad D&D. Far from it. I consider it D&D--without quality qualifier. It simply is. Whether you like that it is or not is irrelevant. We cannot deny that the Dragonlance modules are D&D; we cannot pretend that their approach was somehow utterly unacceptable to anyone who...

I very much beg to differ, but I don't think such a discussion is productive in any way.

It's not a matter of anyone being good enough for me (or anyone else). It's a matter of people setting out this "medieval" standard--referencing real-world history--and then flagrantly breaking that standard whenever it suits what actually matters, namely, their trope preferences.

But notice what that requires: "6. If your abstractions do not match your fictional world, de-abstract until they do." That's...pretty much the entire argument pemerton is making. The abstractions do not match the fictional world. In some cases, the mismatch is so significant, it outright...

Depends on the setting, I should think. Even within D&D proper, different settings have different rules, e.g. Eberron (IIRC) has demons bound under the world, the result of Eberron trapping Khyber beneath her body for Khyber's murder of their brother, Siberys. In my Jewel of the Desert setting...

This is a take I fully support. I don't personally think it's that big a deal--though I might say that a functional belt-clip for a lantern is an addon that costs extra money--but for folks who see this as a form of power creep, awesome, give it a reasonable cost bump and call it a day...

I never said otherwise. I have, in fact, repeatedly used DL modules as my example of the most maximally railroaded style of D&D one could possibly play, bordering on "having scripted lines for every player". I am solely using them as disproof of the claim that the everpresent threat of...