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Based on my experience, folks who have a good experience with a new game at a con are MUCH more likely to spend money on that game (either at the con or shortly thereafter, while the fun is a fresh memory) than they are to spend extra money on whatever game they usually play and purchase for.

I sometimes think of things like the trans continental railroad was completed during the American Civil War, and it reminds me that wars do not stop the world from turning. Even now, for eample, Ukrainian game devs keep working on their games, and there are people engaged in various kinds of...

Two way ignore might be the limit for me.

Savage Worlds is still an ongoing game system with lots of support. Mythras is still active, I believe, and I assume we would put true toolkits like Cortex Prime in the same category.

House systems have been around since the early days of the hobby.

Sure, but that was never a claim or the question. The question was whether YOU, when looking to use a generic system, have setting you like to test the system against because that setting pretty well covers your preferences in a way that tells you whether the system will work for you.

Both of those things have dealing with the war as the primary focus of the narratives.

There is an interesting question: if something is easily hackable (Shadowdark, say) does that mean it is a generic or universal system? I don't think so. I think it just means that the core of the system has flexibility of presentation built into it.

Oh, sure, but many a good thread has been killed by a 2 poster sniping war.

it seems obvious on its face that all universal or generic systems have built in limitations. That hardly seem controversial, and therefore not really worth derailing the thread over.

Is that better or worse than a thread circling the drain for an interminably long time as two posters go back and forth, talking past one another to make the same points over and over and over and over...?

So talent trees. Cool. That is definitely better than subclasses.

Very cool. Did they succeed?

I was listening to a podcast this morning that was covering the post WW1 struggle between Britain and Russia over who got to control Persia/Iran. They talked about the companies trying to secure oil rights, mercenaries, and then other folks doing archaeology etc. It got me thinking about how war...

IMO Star Wars is as close to an all encompassing milieu as you can get, so it makes for a great test bed.

I don't think we know. If I recall,WotC put 2nd and 3rd in the vault. A bunch of the others ended up getting released by different 3PPs.

I don't think they are worried about people that don't like the game. I mean, why would they be?

I think it is worth noting that the playtest uses the word "villain" -- which kind of precludes the sort of thing you are talking about where the PCs are more "anti heroes." I don't think running a villain campaign would be especially rewarding, fun or even tolerable. Villains, by definition...

Sure. The way to make it align with 5E is just to make it a tool proficiency. That doesn't preclude a hacker subclass of rogue, tho.

I get the strong sense that I asked the question poorly, since so many people are arguing against generic systems in general. What i really wanted to know is do you (like me) have a go-to setting or milieu against which you measure a system that purports to be generic or universal? The actual...