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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 9339555" data-attributes="member: 2067"><p>I've got zero problem with a level 20 warlord calling up supernatural help with their (entirely nonmagical) ability to call in an oath, be they angle or debil or zombo or dragin or whatever. It's a magical world, there's magical armies, this person knows how best to use them, even if they don't quite know how to do what it is they do.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Which is, I think, why a lot of people point at the Fighter as a place to put a Warlord (as an archetype). If the Fighter already is a good portion of what the Warlord would be, then it kind of makes sense, and certainly would be more possible to see. But the subclass power budget is low, and possibly not enough for the Warlord, at least without some extra steps, and it wouldn't work especially if we need the warlord to specifically be a full class in order to be satisfying. </p><p></p><p>And we might need that! There's value in talking about why 5e doesn't accommodate new official classes very easily. </p><p></p><p></p><p>"No TRUE Scotsman..."</p><p></p><p>Look, I've never been trying to solve your problem. The idea of martial exploits as a kind of spellcasting trait is not meant to satisfy Warlord fans or be the solution to the problem of no Warlord in 5e. It's only ever meant to demonstrate the idea that the gap between martial and caster is mechanically trivial to cross.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 9339555, member: 2067"] I've got zero problem with a level 20 warlord calling up supernatural help with their (entirely nonmagical) ability to call in an oath, be they angle or debil or zombo or dragin or whatever. It's a magical world, there's magical armies, this person knows how best to use them, even if they don't quite know how to do what it is they do. Which is, I think, why a lot of people point at the Fighter as a place to put a Warlord (as an archetype). If the Fighter already is a good portion of what the Warlord would be, then it kind of makes sense, and certainly would be more possible to see. But the subclass power budget is low, and possibly not enough for the Warlord, at least without some extra steps, and it wouldn't work especially if we need the warlord to specifically be a full class in order to be satisfying. And we might need that! There's value in talking about why 5e doesn't accommodate new official classes very easily. "No TRUE Scotsman..." Look, I've never been trying to solve your problem. The idea of martial exploits as a kind of spellcasting trait is not meant to satisfy Warlord fans or be the solution to the problem of no Warlord in 5e. It's only ever meant to demonstrate the idea that the gap between martial and caster is mechanically trivial to cross. [/QUOTE]
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