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<blockquote data-quote="Mecheon" data-source="post: 9337196" data-attributes="member: 6801776"><p>Anything a character gets has to be balanced against what other subclasses get</p><p></p><p>All that Fighter stuff is making this pseudo-warlord focus too much on being good at combat and not the other side of the warlord thing. If folks were okay with that, then they'd be okay with Battlemaster and not have been saying for 5E's lifespan that Battlemaster is too Fighter-focused. Otherwise, the subclass is going to be unbalanced as heck ala Twilight Cleric, or that time wizards tried to steal metamagic. You can see a big example of this failing with those test sub-classes in UA that didn't give all the classes their full benefit, those were not designed properly and folks would have lost out</p><p></p><p></p><p>If multiple versions of classes existing is grounds for them being bad, then you're saying the WotC druid, sorcerer and warlock should all be removed, because there's numerous versions out there changing those up. Like, two warlords? Yeah that's nothing, there's like a good 4 iterations of the sorcerer out and about, and before we even get to the like. 10 witch classes out there.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Not having all of the fighter's stuff and having that class debt being given to stuff that helps the party. Kibbles and Laser both got it fine and their Warlords are very distinct from the Battlemaster.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mecheon, post: 9337196, member: 6801776"] Anything a character gets has to be balanced against what other subclasses get All that Fighter stuff is making this pseudo-warlord focus too much on being good at combat and not the other side of the warlord thing. If folks were okay with that, then they'd be okay with Battlemaster and not have been saying for 5E's lifespan that Battlemaster is too Fighter-focused. Otherwise, the subclass is going to be unbalanced as heck ala Twilight Cleric, or that time wizards tried to steal metamagic. You can see a big example of this failing with those test sub-classes in UA that didn't give all the classes their full benefit, those were not designed properly and folks would have lost out If multiple versions of classes existing is grounds for them being bad, then you're saying the WotC druid, sorcerer and warlock should all be removed, because there's numerous versions out there changing those up. Like, two warlords? Yeah that's nothing, there's like a good 4 iterations of the sorcerer out and about, and before we even get to the like. 10 witch classes out there. Not having all of the fighter's stuff and having that class debt being given to stuff that helps the party. Kibbles and Laser both got it fine and their Warlords are very distinct from the Battlemaster. [/QUOTE]
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