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<blockquote data-quote="VenerableBede" data-source="post: 8501556" data-attributes="member: 7032917"><p>I find it interesting how much of this discussion on the artificer revolves around the lackluster capstone, or uses the lackluster capstone to justify criticizing the class overall, when the capstone is the last and least important of the artificer's abilities. In my perception, the various capstones vary wildly in terms of power and flavor; the artificer's capstone does, to me, sit on the lower end, but it isn't the weakest.</p><p></p><p>That aside, how often will most tables actually see a class's capstone? Every table is different, and A5e was designed to help make higher level play happen more often (to my understanding), but most <em>characters</em> will still never see 4th tier, let alone level 20. As a result, which I get excited about a good capstone or unmotivated by a middling one, it's not the deciding factor in whether or not I think a class is good.</p><p></p><p>I don't think the above justifies capstones and high-level abilities that don't seem to deliver, but, for me at least, it does encourage me to weigh later-level abilities significantly lower than earlier-level abilities when determining how strong, flavorful, and fun a class is. And I think the artificer is extremely solid through tier two, even tier three.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="VenerableBede, post: 8501556, member: 7032917"] I find it interesting how much of this discussion on the artificer revolves around the lackluster capstone, or uses the lackluster capstone to justify criticizing the class overall, when the capstone is the last and least important of the artificer's abilities. In my perception, the various capstones vary wildly in terms of power and flavor; the artificer's capstone does, to me, sit on the lower end, but it isn't the weakest. That aside, how often will most tables actually see a class's capstone? Every table is different, and A5e was designed to help make higher level play happen more often (to my understanding), but most [I]characters[/I] will still never see 4th tier, let alone level 20. As a result, which I get excited about a good capstone or unmotivated by a middling one, it's not the deciding factor in whether or not I think a class is good. I don't think the above justifies capstones and high-level abilities that don't seem to deliver, but, for me at least, it does encourage me to weigh later-level abilities significantly lower than earlier-level abilities when determining how strong, flavorful, and fun a class is. And I think the artificer is extremely solid through tier two, even tier three. [/QUOTE]
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